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[Gamerdude535]

Just finished The Cry from the Deep sidequest. And now the game crashes when i try to teleport to Erothin, Giliad, or Trin Abbey. And I can't even manually go to Erothin or the Erod Bridge Watch area without it crashing

the waiting 4 in game days fix is not working. I'm really frustrated right now this mod needs serious fixing. Or Nehrim needs to be remade as a standalone game that actually functions.

Really wanted to play and finish this but it's so incredibly broken and frustrating to play when it crashes so much

[Stefanie]

hello Gamerdude535
First question: Do you have a savegame for us—from while you're still in the dungeon, or right after you finish it?
You can find these in the Nehrim Saves-folder at:
C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Saves
There are always two same named files, a .ess and a .obse file. Put both into a ZIP archive and attach them to this post.
By any chance, did you complete the main quest “The Arcane Sanctum” around that time? Because there's also a partial blockade at that point (an extra quest).
If you're using any external mods, that could be the cause, but the easiest way for me to check is by looking at your save file.

As for general crashes, keep in mind that the old Oblivion engine is quite outdated, so it doesn’t really support newer hardware very well. Plus, it was inherently quite unstable, and Nehrim has even higher system requirements in some cases than Oblivion. With the right settings, though, it should run crash-free for 2–4 hours, except for certain bugs where waiting 3–7 in-game days usually helps. but I’d be happy to test that out myself with your save file.

Releasing it as a standalone game -for example, through Unreal- could solve the problem, but that would require an enormous amount of extra work, especially since we don’t own the rights to all the assets; those rights belong to Bethesda and, in some cases, to other creators who are no longer reachable.
However, since we’re now developing many standalone commercial game with a much smaller team than we had back then, this task would be impossible to accomplish. (especially since the game is now over 15 years old)

[Gamerdude535]

hello Gamerdude535
First question: Do you have a savegame for us—from while you're still in the dungeon, or right after you finish it?
You can find these in the Nehrim Saves-folder at:
C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Saves
There are always two same named files, a .ess and a .obse file. Put both into a ZIP archive and attach them to this post.
By any chance, did you complete the main quest “The Arcane Sanctum” around that time? Because there's also a partial blockade at that point (an extra quest).
If you're using any external mods, that could be the cause, but the easiest way for me to check is by looking at your save file.

As for general crashes, keep in mind that the old Oblivion engine is quite outdated, so it doesn’t really support newer hardware very well. Plus, it was inherently quite unstable, and Nehrim has even higher system requirements in some cases than Oblivion. With the right settings, though, it should run crash-free for 2–4 hours, except for certain bugs where waiting 3–7 in-game days usually helps. but I’d be happy to test that out myself with your save file.

Releasing it as a standalone game -for example, through Unreal- could solve the problem, but that would require an enormous amount of extra work, especially since we don’t own the rights to all the assets; those rights belong to Bethesda and, in some cases, to other creators who are no longer reachable.
However, since we’re now developing many standalone commercial game with a much smaller team than we had back then, this task would be impossible to accomplish. (especially since the game is now over 15 years old)

I mean you say that but I don't even remember the last time regular Oblivion has crashed on me it's far stabler than what people claim. Far from the clearly broken unfinished mess that Nehrim has been.

And no I don't have a save from when I was still inside the dungeon from that quest. I'll get back to you in a little while and send what I do have though

[Gamerdude535]

Ok how do I go about sending you copies of my saves???

[Gamerdude535]

Well the game let me teleport to the Arcane Sanctum and then I managed to teleport to Trin Abbey. But despite waiting more in game days Giliad and Erothin still crash the game. I feel so defeated this is such bullshit to deal with. Please contact the original team and get this mod fixed this is infuriating

[Stefanie]

Ok how do I go about sending you copies of my saves???

I’ve already explained above where the save files are located and how you can send them to us.
You’ll find them in the “Nehrim Saves” folder at:
C:\...\Steam\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Saves
There are always two files with the same name: a .ess file and a .obse file. Put both into a ZIP archive and attach them to this post.
I’ll be happy to try to find and fix your error using a suitable save file.

Having several different save files can help you fix various errors, so we recommend creating many of them so you don’t have to go too far back in case the worst happens.

It’s not easy to fix something on the spot, and besides, most of the original developers now work elsewhere and are no longer reachable.
Keep in mind that we created all of this in our spare time and you’re getting this work for free, but you can still be respectful.
Also, the main problem is the engine, which we can’t change anyway.

[Gamerdude535]

Ok how do I go about sending you copies of my saves???

I’ve already explained above where the save files are located and how you can send them to us.
You’ll find them in the “Nehrim Saves” folder at:
C:\...\Steam\steamapps\common\Oblivion\Saves
There are always two files with the same name: a .ess file and a .obse file. Put both into a ZIP archive and attach them to this post.
I’ll be happy to try to find and fix your error using a suitable save file.

Having several different save files can help you fix various errors, so we recommend creating many of them so you don’t have to go too far back in case the worst happens.

It’s not easy to fix something on the spot, and besides, most of the original developers now work elsewhere and are no longer reachable.
Keep in mind that we created all of this in our spare time and you’re getting this work for free, but you can still be respectful.

Also, the main problem is the engine, which we can’t change anyway.

I already know the file location but how do you want me to send you the save data copies???

[Stefanie]

Put both into a ZIP archive and attach them to this post.

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[Gamerdude535]

Here we go I think I did this right

[urst]

we checked your save - there doesn't seem to be an issue with teleporting or walking into these locations.
(mountain lions are also pretty visible)
the game is pretty laggy though.

this is due to outdated mods. (or Oblivion mods that can't be used with Nehrim anyways)
the game is around since 2010, some were outdated two years later and never updated.

if you give us a list we may be able to narrow it down

[Gamerdude535]

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[Hoxyd]

Can be caused by other mods, bloated saves or by a corrupted installation. Re-installation of the game can help in some cases. You have to be careful with the Steam version due to the switching process. Switching from Nehrim to Oblivion first via the switcher tool before uninstalling Nehrim and Oblivion is needed on Steam.

This process would be easier with the GOG version because Nehrim has its own installation directory on GOG, so no switching is needed.

[Gamerdude535]

Can be caused by other mods, bloated saves or by a corrupted installation. Re-installation of the game can help in some cases. You have to be careful with the Steam version due to the switching process. Switching from Nehrim to Oblivion first via the switcher tool before uninstalling Nehrim and Oblivion is needed on Steam.

This process would be easier with the GOG version because Nehrim has its own installation directory on GOG, so no switching is needed.

I literally tried everything lol.... Also I don't have Oblivion on my GOG account so I can't do the GOG version of Nehrim and I don't want to have to rebuy a game just to play a mod

[Hoxyd]

Sometimes switching of unnecessary plugins one by one and trying to load a save game that was loadable before can help figuring out if there is a problem with one of the plugins. if the game loads without plugins activated, you can also check if one of the crashy areas can be accessed again.

[urst]

aside from what Hoxyd says, do you have any textures installed that maybe don't use an *.esp?
(that would be your explanation for the invisible mountain lions)

what mod is nwrev?

[Gamerdude535]

aside from what Hoxyd says, do you have any textures installed that maybe don't use an *.esp?
(that would be your explanation for the invisible mountain lions)

what mod is nwrev?

No texture mods

[Gamerdude535]

Well I'll be damned. Looking through Nexus I just remembered I was having problems with the unofficial fixes mod previously

[urst]

Well I'll be damned. Looking through Nexus I just remembered I was having problems with the unofficial fixes mod previously

hm, the inofficial fixes alone should be ok (even if i don't use them personally)
there's probably some overlap with one of your other mods.
but if you get it to run without them all the better

not sure how ok Nehrim is with just removing them during the run, though -
if you keep having issues it might be better to start a new one (if my memory serves right it should be fine)