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What do you wish to see in our upcoming project? Let us know.
at the back of my mind:
- more generic NPC dialogue
- Korinth race, they were in Nehrim we just couldn't choose them
- I understand main quest is the focus but more extensive side quests don't hurt
- Matching exterior and interior locations ( this is really annoying in Skyrim)
- Magic should definately be overhauled compared to Skyrim or at the most significantaly improved. Visually and gameplay was it was pretty but very limited. It had lost its touch.
- More armor pieces so that means leg and chest slots again with the occasional 2slot armour like in Nehrim
- Make skill level important again and less emphasis on perks only. I'm looking at you Skyrim.
- The idea of spending money to train your skills by a trainer is great but a bit of a game breaker. You could spend all your skill points on blade skill and be massively overpowered 1 or 2 hitting everything. Maybe put a limit on how much you can train per level per skill?
- Please try to implement spears! :( Same with crossbow
- Erothin is truly what you can call a city which looks and acts like a city supported with farms around it. The Imperial City didn't make sense at all. However it was a bit empty at times perhaps you should make more npcs per household and have give them jobs/ have them do stuff so it all seems more lively. The market in Erothin was nice but there there were only traders and perhaps 1 or 2 people around it.
- Wilderness was inhabited by traders, travelers and mercenaries. I liked this very much try to bring this over to Project 5.
- Larger scale battles should now be possible compared to Oblivion in the new Creation Engine.
- The battles between the Northrealm and Middlerealm soldiers were quite good but not very large. Now with a newer engine hopefully bigger battles are possible. Bigger batles are more fun and epic ( without the lag of course)
- Every lowlife thug attacked me no matter what. After a while this gets unrealistic they should warn you or something or first ask you to give your gold and if you refuse then they attack you. Some perhaps will just ignore you and others will run away (later on when you are more powerful)
- Conjuration is necessary skill for mages I know it is implented in Nehrim but that wasn't the case at launch.
- I really liked the dark and realistic atmosphere in Nehrim it made the game seem much more powerful and overwhelming.
- Unique item placements at dungeons made them purposeful again because you know you're going to get something strong and not some random generated crap.
At the top of my head:
- More side quests
- guilds
- huge cities. Bethesda always seems to disappoint me here. What I'd like to see would be at least one metropolis which would be super massive and filled with quests that happen within the city itself (you dont just pick up the quest and then go to some far away dungeon). Imperial city should be tiny compared to it.
- larger battles and if possible make the battle size scale with the power of your system so that those who have powerful rigs can enjoy massive battles and those without wont suffer massive lag
- "Make skill level important again and less emphasis on perks only. I'm looking at you Skyrim." that and make perks more interesting and have them change the way you play the game. Most of skyrim's perks were just boring %-bonuses
- more spell effects
- more interesting and less generic quests than in skyrim
- "Unique item placements at dungeons made them purposeful again because you know you're going to get something strong and not some random generated crap."
- tropical lands
- more interesting dungeons
I don't think THAT huge cities are really favorable to do for a small mod team although Erothin's size was pretty much perfect except it could be filled with more npc's. Thanks for mentioning my points.
1. I would like to see quests, especially the main quest, where choices must be made and the choice taken has ramifications. This could lead to 2 or more different endings, which would enhance the replay value. Not something as trite as good verses evil, but perhaps the opportunity to take sides; as in Gothic 3 where you could join the rebels, the orcs, or even the druids.

2. Novel and chained side quests (such as the Gervasius quests in Nehrim). I know most quests ultimately boil down to get something or kill something, but those can be presented in interesting ways. Guilds are not necessary for giving quests, but similar results can be generated in creative ways; I especially liked the "faction" quests in Reckoning:Amalur, such as the House of Ballads series of quests. I especially did not like the "guilds" in Skyrim, such as the assassins guild where it was just one killing after another with no reasoning or story ("just go kill "x" and don't ask why"). Reward long chained quests with something useful such as some permanent ability/skill/stat increase, not just some shiny trinket to be sold.

3. Make all dungeons/caves/inns, etc. unique. You went a long way towards this in Nehrim, but there still were some repetitive dungeons.

4. If there are horses (or other animals !!) to ride, use the same controls as for the character. That worked very smoothly in Sacred 2 (where they had some really interesting rides!)

5. Darlan castle had some nice display cases for weapons, but what about armor. You see armor all over castles, how about creating some mannequins or frames where we can display all those sets of armor that we never use. Maybe even the possibility of opening a museum in some city for all the stuff we never use but still want to keep?

6. I would like to put more than 1 enchantment/gem/rune or whatever on a weapon or piece of armor. Maybe that could depend on quality; for example, 1 enchant on a copper ring, 2 on a silver ring, or 3 on a gold ring.

7. Please make the land wide open. I liked being able to go anywhere I wanted in Gothic 3, Oblivion, & Skyrim. I got frustrated that I couldn't go to Southrealm in Nehrim until late in the game (until I found a way over the mountains).

8. Please keep the ability to jump/climb everywhere. I enjoyed climbing to the remote mountain tops and ridges, just to see if I could. Of course, in Nehrim they were all barren. It would be nice to find some rare plant or animal skin as a reward for exploring the most difficult places.

9. I disagree with previous comments about having big, massive cities. Erothin was certainly big enough. Even during my 5th playthrough, I was still finding new places there. We don't need another Dragon Age 2! Devote those resources to more locales, dungeons, hot springs where I can heal/cure, maybe a ski jump?, or whatever. I also don't want big battles. Use the resources for places to explore, that is what an RPG is all about for me. I think big battles would just devolve the game into a common hack & slash/shooter type game; no thanks!

10. Don't get carried away with magic. Magic effects & displays seem to be one area where it is easy to overload a computer that isn't top-notch, state-of-the-art. Not everyone buys a new rig every 6 months! And don't get too cute, like anvils falling from the sky (Two Worlds 2), or too overpowering (such as the meteor shower in Reckoning:Amalur that kills all enemies around you but doesn't harm a hair on allies or friendly NPCs).

11. English voices would be nice, but I understand why that might not be feasible. I can live with English subtitles, but please translate all the letters,documents, etc. It was frustrating in Nehrim that, even after the last patch, I would find notes or letters in German and wonder if they were telling something I needed to know.

12. Don't make the physical puzzles too hard. In Nehrim, I could never complete the quest to move the black powder barrels from the fire and had to use the console to advance the stage. I did manage, after many, many deaths, the jumps across moving platforms, but they stressed me. Remember, some of us are old folks with slow reflexes.

13. Don't feel it is necessary to put something in every box/crate/barrel. I would rather find most of them empty, than finding useless, valueless stuff everywhere such as clay bowls, forks, etc.

14. All components of the same description should match. For example, I gained several "wolf pelts" from different types of wolves, but even though they were all described as a "wolf pelt", many could not be used to make the armor requiring wolf pelts. Very frustrating.

15. I prefer fast/instant travel to already-discovered locations, by clicking on the location on a map, rather than the teleport system used in Nehrim. I was frustrated at much time wasted traveling the same trails repeatedly to reach certain locations without a teleportal, such as Treomar and Southfield.
- random and free events, for example, be intercepted in a fast travel by ennemies with probabilities which depends on the area. Or be trapped by a wild and dangerous animal and try to escape its lair. Or be ambushed by bandits ...

- tweaked configuration for old computers, hightly configurable graphics options and EAX support.

- I think that useless items (like forks, little knife , ... ) are importants to make the game realistic.

- tutorials for crafting

- possibility to craft arrows

- useless but funny spells or funny diseases and items (inverted screen or commands, cheated item but nasty visual effect when equiped)

- possibility to fly, or plane.

- possibility to have an animal which help you, fight for you, and carry items or have special abilities.

- possibility to command big group of fighters, because it's frustrating to see that the player has no influence in big fights.

- many ends with morales choices and dilemmas (ex: a good stuff or save an important npc)

- possibility to fight a dragon ! =)

- multiplayers quests ?

- dynamics dialogs with differents cameras point of view and focuses on chacaters faces.

- see its own character grown and become older during the game.

- contextual actions in dialogs

- countries with relief

- disable cloned enemies

- no auto levelling

- possibility to customize colors of equipments

- scripted moments

- some cinematics for importants moments in the game

- love or flirt quests

- chained quests, do an other secondary quest will influence on an other or main quest

- possibility to use physics and environments of the game in fights
*sighs* I feel like some of you havent played Skyrim at all as some of those requests are part of Skyrim already.

One of my addons is that if you do get spears working that you tweak it a little bit and have proper fighting staves instead of just the generic ones you got with the mods in Oblivion. What I saw with the spear video was that it was really close to how one would handle a proper fighting staff. Make it easier to play like a monk for example or a proper battle mage.
-Big dungeon and overland bosses. And saying big I mean huge.
-Epic questlines to get legendary weapons and gear. Long, interesting and very challenging. Id like to read cool lore about those items in description/books.
-Items sets with cool and varied bonuses. Make it hard to obtain full set, so that when you get it, you felt really good.
-"Most Wanted" quests coming back, sending you to track notorious creatures.
-Unique places like theater and gallery in Nehrim. For example cirqus, zoo, heroic weapons museum (that you could rob).
-Mounts! I always missed them in Nehrim. Get rid of teleportation system and let us ride something cool, not only horses. Mounts in Skyrim are slow and worthless, I'd like to see faster and more useful in P5.
-Places with vistas that Ive never seen in any other RPG. Shocking, beautiful, surreal, epic, breathtaking, jawdropping.
-Easter eggs and references to popular games and pop cultures.
-Good crafting system without boring leveling. I want to hunt for rare and ultra rare resources to make epic weapon/armor. Check Vanguard: SoH for example of nice crafting system.
-Plenty of random encounters in the wilderness. Make it so that every trip could turn out to be adventure.
-Some type of arena with progressively harder mobs/waves to beat and very challenging encounter in the end.
-Lots of great lore. So I could really dig into the world.
-Main questline with dramatic choices. Let us feel that your decisions will matter.
-Something to work for after you've finished main questling. For example, getting rare decoration items for your residence.
-Compatibility with Skyrim graphic mods (realistic lighting, HD textures, EBMS)
-English language support at release.

After Nehrim (which was great) my expectations from P5 are sky high. Good luck ;)
My only request would be to have the Main quest take me all over the world map! Nehrim almost did that I believe, it took me to almost every corner of the map while the Side Quests took me to those the Main Quest didn't. So yes, that's what I want from the Main quest. Thank you SureAI.

The "In the Underworld" Quest in Nehrim was one of my favorite parts of the game... Just when I thought I visited every part of the game, you take me underground! Splendid work! The other dimensions were amazing too. I love Nehrim and I wish it was an actual game than a Mod...
-Difficulty)) Hard and yet not frustrating.
-Allow player to grow in power as strong as in morrowind but somehow balanced
-enchanting and magic with great variety of effects
-levitation and jumping
-probably very srtong dungeon bosses which require something special to defeat them
-good balanced gameplay
-and most important well tested srcipts. in nehrim there was script effect on one spell that *should* knockown target but instead incresed targets fatigue permanently and some enemies used it on player... now I found in arktwend's stormwend robbers which draw and holster weapon every frame(startcombat player + stopcombat were both called), looks almost funny, but broken thing is not funny. Just watch scripts with attention and all shall be ok))
No fake lighting please. So no random patches with light with no visible source anywhere! Much more immersive and realistic.
Dear SureAI team,
greetings from the Czech Rep. First of all I must say I really appreciate your great work! In fact I enjoy playing Nehrim much more than Oblivion itself. And these words come from someone who is The Elder Scrolls maniac (I have finished ALL TES games including Arena and Daggerfall). So thanks again and here are my suggestions for your next project (btw is there any name for this project on horizon?)

1) MAKE IT HARD!
- modern RPGs are too easy and it's no challenge for players to beat them. But I mean not only combat (combat difficulty can be set anyway). I would really appreciate if the game makes player to THINK and SEARCH. This is what I really like in Arktwend (which I currently play btw). What I really hate in Skyrim are those map markers. You get a quest and all you need to do is just look at the map. But how can I know that the artifact I am looking for is in that specific location for a god sake?! Of course there is a mod which disables these markers but then player is just lost because there is no hint where to look. So some kind of clever "hint system" would be really nice.

2) SIDE QUESTS
- I like doing side quests but some of them are stupid and boring and some locations are over-quested. I mean - what is the point of quest where you must bring 10 of this or 20 of that and all you get for doing this is some good-for-nothing item which you can buy anyway. I really hate these "picking" quests. So I would rather have fewer but loooooong side quests that bring you to really UNIQUE items that are unable to obtain any other way. You made really good progress in this in Nehrim - just remain on this way. ;-) Also If I do something remarkable I want other NPCs to KNOW about it and REACT to it. Gameplay should be affected by player's actions.

3) LORE AND GAME'S BACKGROUND
- I know many players probably won't appreciate this too much but I like digging in game's world history (that' s exactly why I love TES games so much). So I hope your next game WILL HAVE something together with Arktwend's and Nehrim's events and if so I would like to find some books about this. It would be also nice to meet some known characters/visit known locations.

4) MODS AND PLUGINS
- make your total conversion playable together with graphic mods or you can in-build some of well-known mods into it. I have about 50 mods in my Skyrim game and it looks really LOVELY!

5) ENGLISH VERSION
- English translation of Nehrim was on very high level but we had to wait for it (although not so long). So please develop English version together with the German one. I understand this can be difficult but know that there are THOUSANDS of players all around the world who are waiting for your TC very impatiently. ;-)

Well, I wish you good luck!
SakalCT wrote:
5) ENGLISH VERSION
- English translation of Nehrim was on very high level but we had to wait for it (although not so long). So please develop English version together with the German one. I understand this can be difficult but know that there are THOUSANDS of players all around the world who are waiting for your TC very impatiently. ;-)

Well, I wish you good luck!

What I loved about Nehrim as well was the professional voice actors you used(think they were 50 voice actors). So yessss I hope for a fully patched English version on release. Wishful thinking, but you never know ;)
Greetings,

I played Nehrim, finished every quest, visited every place and I was enchanted by the depth and variety. In the beggining I thought the plot was childish but as the story progresses I found out that my initial assesment was entirely wrong! Marvelous story, nice twists, I enjoyed every last moment. I dare to say I enjoyed it more than Skyrim which, despite the attempt for the contrary, was rather "canned". Please continue the good work as I (and a multitude of friends here in Greece to whom I introduced the game) am expecting project 5 with great anticipation!

Some thoughts for Project 5:

(1) Retain the versatility of Nehrim! The change of scenery and unique environments contribute to the overall immersion. I never got bored and each location was a piece of art. Do not change that!

(2) A wider variety of creatures and unique bosses would be wellcomed, as to avoid repetitivenes. A personal wish of mine would be to introduce some underwater hazzards. I saw in a beach at Nehrim a skeleton of a huge water beast. It would be marvelous to see something like that alive! Well, some vampires, lycanthropes and dragons would not be bad either...

(3) Many people were dissapointed with the lack of flight in both Oblivion and Skyrim. Reintroduction of the levitation spell would be cool.

(4) Have you considered the introduction of underwater cities (as in Ultima IX) or flying with a Dwarven ship to the surface of the moons that are visible in the night sky?

(5) The Aeterna could have a live city somewhere and not just be society's outcasts.

(6) Boat or ship travel could be a nice addition.

(7) Please DO NOT leave senario gaps. Launch it when it is complete, no matter how long it takes.

(8) Cities and towns should have some questlines. I was dissapointed with the lack of quests up north at Sarnor.

(9) The matching armor sets and the forging was great (Skyrim copied that)! Keep it but do not make it so complicated as Skyrim did, frustrating the players.

(10) The combat at Nehrim was far better than Skyrim. I was surprised when I raised me shield to block and a goblin lunged upwards and low to bypass it! Please improve it even further...

Keep up the good work, a whole community of Nehrim maniacs are eager for your next project!

Tolis, Greece
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SakalCT wrote:
btw is there any name for this project on the horizon?
Yes. But right now I can't tell you how far away it is from going public. We're currently thinking about how and when we will release it (the name).

And thank you all for all the responses!
As to huge Dungeons: we are aware of the fact that you do not want boring dungeons. I myself as a player dislike them, too. The interior designers, to whom I count myself, are doing big efforts, as you will see in future screenshots that we will deliver, once some really cool one can be shot.

A note in general:
Of course we are listening to your ideas, but I would like to point out that some suggestions will not be realized, such as useless spells. Please be aware of that we cannot respond to every suggestion.
I just finished playing Dragon's Dogma and I totally forgot to mention something very important to me ;) Please add fast-travel. I used a mod that allowed fast travel in Nehrim that I almost forgot Nehrim has a different system for traveling distances.

Please please I beg you so much!! Add Fast-Travel in Project 5. Nehrim took me over 50 hours to beat(I hit the achievement when I reached the southern desert) and on my second play-through maybe even longer! I played both with the fast-travel mod so the game would of taken me 100 hours+ because I love going back to areas I may have missed.

I love you, SureAI! Do what you feel is right don't mind me ;)
Hi Snoozy,

Sorry to disappoint you, but so far we haven't planned to include fast travel. Did you feel that it took you too long to get from point A to point B in Nehrim?

However, we will probably integrate two different methods of "fast travel". One of them will be a teleport system (Improved though, since many players criticized the old system). We will announce the second method once we are sure that we'll be able to integrate it. :)
I actually liked how the teleportation system worked it was at least better than Oblivion's method. Are you guys planning on maybe using a couple of mods to enhance the game like you did in Nehrim?
Also one last thing please don't let us be another 'chosen one' destined to save the land etc... I am really sick of it. What you did in Nehrim was perfect ( rare gifted power among other people).
Latiro wrote:
Hi Snoozy,

Sorry to disappoint you, but so far we haven't planned to include fast travel. Did you feel that it took you too long to get from point A to point B in Nehrim?

However, we will probably integrate two different methods of "fast travel". One of them will be a teleport system (Improved though, since many players criticized the old system). We will announce the second method once we are sure that we'll be able to integrate it. :)
I'm not disappointed and actually, I don't know how I feel, because I got the fast travel mod immediately when I found out I couldn't fast travel back to places I wanted to revisit and I do like going back to places I've been to, just to make sure I didn't miss anything. I thought it was a glitch when I couldn't fast travel, hehehehehehehe.. I did enjoy traveling very long distances for the first time in the Main quest, but I wouldn't like to do it over and over again :/ I mean if it's going back and forth. Dragon's Dogma doesn't have fast travel and the map is HUGE... and it really ticked me off going back and forth.

The reason I didn't use Nehrim's teleportation system was because I didn't know exactly what to do. Just like that quest where you have to kill some elementals a certain way, that took me awhile but that was fun once I got it going, thank quicksaves ^_^;; I already got the fast travel system working easily so I didn't think about the teleport stones.

Anyways, I think it's only one more day for some news! can't wait ><!!! E3 is over now and Project 5 is also on my mind!!
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