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[dasmotiu]

I play games like this for the romp, and am not good at the combat side, as I seem to have far too slow reaction times, perhaps due to age. Your parents are probably younger than I am.

I have played Skyrim all the way through several times, and have over 1000 hours on it in Steam. I love everything about it. But I play on the easy setting, with mods that allow me to have a pretty lady (or two, or more) as a companion -- but I think I have played enough Skyrim for a while, so I installed Enderal.

I have reached the Three River Watch, but agonizingly slowly, and I have died at least 25 times, mostly within two or three seconds of encountering the wolf, spider, and most recently the Vatyr in Three River watch. Even on the easy setting it instantly goes round behind me and kills me in seconds, before I can get in more than one or two blows with a sword, perhaps doing 5% damage to it. Bleak Falls Barrow, the first quest in Skyrim, was not even close to that difficulty.

The fact that health does not gradually return as it does in Skyrim makes me an easy kill.

I also passed a might at the "resting place" and was not able to "sleep" or even to "wait" so I just walked away from my PC for about 45 minutes.

For me, this level of difficulty when on the easy setting simply means that I am not enjoying myself, and will go elsewhere. I realize that there are others out there who like the intensity of the combat, and I know there are people who START playing the game on the most difficult level, but I can't do that.

Dasmotiu, Windows 10, Core i7 4790k, 16GB, GTX 970, 512GB Samsung 850 Pro SSD

[Nicolas Samuel]

So you are playing on Novice?

[dasmotiu]

Yes, the level at the extreme left of the options. I noticed that I was set on "adept" by default the first time I opened the game. I am definitely NOT Adept. I just want to have fun, kill a few monsters, solve a few puzzles, complete a few quests. My adrenalin goes through the roof if I get into a real fight, and I don't much like the feeling.

[Kazeen]

Mhm this seems to be a dilemma. As well as players like you, struggling with the easiest difficulty, I imagine there are others, who find the hardest setting still not hard enough. That said, i guess a game can't always satisfy the whole wide range of preferred levels of challenge.

I'm not sure how complex it would be, to edit some game files to actually reduce the strength of enemies further. I'm not a modder though.

[Hazzmat]

Ummm yeah don't mean this in a bad way but yeah if you're struggling in the beginning and on the lowest possible difficulty then maybe this game is not for you. If your ''adrenaline goes through the roof'' during a fight you should look for a more casual game. The core of Enderal's gameplay is persistence and challange that's why I enjoyed it.

Only thing I can say is find a summon spell asap, a paralyse spell and ranged magic spells so you're not that much in danger as a melee fighter. Or play a more casual game such as skyrim or diablo 3.

[dasmotiu]

I appreciate the constructive comments and understand those who want options like Tesla's cars' more recent offerings, "insane", and "ludicrous". I wish I could switch on that enthusiasm/instinct/reaction times, but heck, I am 68 years old, and feel quite good about being able to play Skyrim at all, even at the base level. I also have Witcher 3 and have had less luck with that, but I need to go back and try again. Shadows of Mordor was just too depressing, and I say that having read the Lord of the Rings trilogy over 20 times since 1966.

Who knows, now I have played Skyrim through several times perhaps I should turn the difficulty dial up, since I know the dungeons like the back of my hand.

Once I have that under my belt, THEN I can come back to Enderal. I could mod it myself - I am a retired software engineer, modding would be relatively straightforward for me. Papyrus is very much like languages I have used before.

Thank you, I wish I could divide my age by 4.

Das

[Kazeen]

Thank you, I wish I could divide my age by 4.

Why would you? In my view, life experience that comes with an advanced age is invaluable. Since we're all gamers, think of it as an actual achievement. You are level 68, while many of us are still grinding boars und crabs.

In fact, i believe not many of your fellow contemporaries are into this form of pc gaming. So you're kind of a pioneer, it doesn't matter how slow your reaction times may be. Much respect.

[Nicolas Samuel]

I took the time to make a quick mode that makes the enemies easier (ONLY on novice difficulty, though - make sure to set the current difficulty to novice in the gameplay settings): https://www.dropbox.com/s/et331qvbhlxaz ... e.esp?dl=0
Simply download it, put it into your Skyrim/Data folder and then activate under "Data Files" in the Enderal Launcher. Let me know how it goes!

[badgesareus]

Yes, sometimes you can sneak near or past enemies. Don't count on it. Likewise, they can sneak up on you, especially in the tall grass. You won't know there is a giant spider behind you, and the next thing you see is the loading screen after your death!
Up through level 3, I've been killed by a wolf, a spider, a team of giant rats (or whatever they call them), an Arp, a troll, a skeleton, and an archer bandit from across a river that I didn't know was there till the arrows hit me, and many many times I've been taken down to just a couple of health points remaining.

I posted this on the forum last July 5th, having played the German version even though I don't read more than a few common words of the language. So don't get discouraged, I had quite a problem, too, until I got the hang of it and learned to be very cautious.

but heck, I am 68 years old,

You kids! I remember back when I had to program my Commodore 64 to play Pong. (I'm a ripe old 70.)

It might help you to have some better weapons. This might help you, if they haven't been patched out:
https://forum.sureai.net/viewtopic.php? ... pons+early

[Hazzmat]

Badgesareus I had no idea you were 70 years old. This is really weird for to see that basically grandpas would play video games very unusual(not an insult). I automatically assume everyone here is somewhere between 16-40 years old. Guess age really is just a number.

[badgesareus]

The earliest arcade video game (Pong) is from the 1970s (when I was in my 20s), and the earliest home video games were from the early 1980s. My son was born in 1980, so we started playing the home video games such as Activision & Atari, later Nintendo, since they were invented. After he grew up and left home, I switched over to games on the PC and have been playing PC RPGs ever since. Chances are you younger fellows will be playing them in your elder years, too.

[Hazzmat]

The earliest arcade video game (Pong) is from the 1970s (when I was in my 20s), and the earliest home video games were from the early 1980s. My son was born in 1980, so we started playing the home video games such as Activision & Atari, later Nintendo, since they were invented. After he grew up and left home, I switched over to games on the PC and have been playing PC RPGs ever since. Chances are you younger fellows will be playing them in your elder years, too.

Yeah probably but not according to my dad lol. He'll only consider me truly grown up only if I ditch video games. Seems like you don't have to be. You had a son and continued with your hobby meaning you don't have to ditch anything. But I'd say you are a very rare chip of a rare block compared to your peers.But yea nowadays a bigger generation will grow old playing these video games considering they're alot more normalised than before.

[Corwyn77]

I'm sure that plenty of us are over 50, including me. On the GURPS forum we often have age threads. There is almost always someone in their 70s, playing with their grandkids or even great grandkids.

[badgesareus]

My wife didn't get hooked on video games (although she put a lot of time into Ms Pacman decades ago) until she got a smart phone and discovered Angry Birds! Now it's our dog who goes up to her face to face to tell her she's played enough, play with the doggie!

[Deleted User 23162]

I've played on Adept and higher plenty of times. Seems like a breeze for me. It only starts to get really serious when you set it to Master/Legendary. At least for me it does. You have to remember that how you build your character reflects how you will deal with your encounters. If you build your character right, it shouldn't be much of a challenge. My recommendation is to specialize your character. Trust me. If you give your character an edge and you focus on it you will do great. Whatever weakness you give them you can compensate with items or strategic placement when using certain spells.

[rjdriver]

Hey badgesareus, you have one year on me, but your history sounds very similar to mine with my son. We spent hours and hours playing Mega Man 2 on the NES in the 80s, after we moved on from Atari. Then, of course I had to find Mega Man 1 and conquer that. Wow - no passwords. Had to be done in one sitting!


To desmotiu, the advice to find a summon spell is important. I couldn't have made it through the early part of Elderal without one. And I continued to use one through most of the game. There are no hire-able companions so its the next best thing. Although you will have players important to the story that accompany you quite often during the main quest.

The enemies don't level with you here like they did in Skyrim, so its easy to wander into an area you are not ready for. But I agree with you about Three River Watch. The Vatyr is a very difficult foe to put into a place that almost everyone encounters early on. You have to be much more cautious in this game until you get your skills up. I was constantly on the lookout for high ground to try to survive a fight .

The story and the voice acting in Enderal are far superior to Skyrim IMHO, and worth the difficult slog through the early game. It's really quite a different experience that will stay with you after its over. Hope you can find a way to keep playing.