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[SteAStro88]

As the title says, i found something that reminds a structure for a tree house behind a hill just north, north east of the bridge, there is a huge tree and a platform that is almost invisible seen from below, it's not something which is going to be completed because the last release was more than 1 year ago, but what should it be? somebody knows?

[Daniel]

I saw that yesterday as well while searching for herbs and magic symbols.. perhaps an alternative area for the wanted! quest manhunt? I guess we'll never know unless they tell us, maybe a post in the german forum could work?

I also wonder if the ending of the Nexus Halls in Treomar is also incomplete.. since there is no way out and it ends very abruptly. Perhaps unfinished because of work was beginning to have focus more and more on Enderal. Maybe we will see a last patch for Nehrim with the final English translations and some fixed bugs/things (like adding the 100th magic symbol ) in a few years when they have finished Enderal and have nothing to do.

[badgesareus]

Wow, I've played through the game several times but I haven't seen that before, I never looked up at that location! It looks similar to the treehouse in the Manhunter bounty quest. Maybe the devs were going to locate it there and then moved the location to where it is in the quest now, but didn't delete the treehouse by Alcazar completely?

like adding the 100th magic symbol

All 100 magic symbols are available in the game now.

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the last two are in Nexus Halls and Iron Fire Halls.

in a few years when they have finished Enderal and have nothing to do

By the time Enderal is finished and all the bugs are worked out, Bethesda will probably come out with Elder Scrolls 6 and the SureAI group will have another canvas to paint, if they aren't burned out!

[Daniel]

That's possible, or, perhaps, there could have been an extension to the part of the quest whereas you were supposed to find 2 manhunters? A pair of brothers, maybe?

Oh, it is? I have

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the one from the halls' but not the other one. I'll have to go fetch it immediately!!

I really, really think that the Nexus Halls in Treomar is unfinished, since, well, the final room looks like a giant elevator and the place is even called "shaft to the sanctum". Sanctum of what? Considering all the other stuff that's found in the halls, I'm sure there's supposed to be more stuff down there. Sigh.

[badgesareus]

When the final English patch came out last year, there was quite a bit of discussion on this forum about that shaft in Nexus Halls, and we were officially told that's all there is to it, Nexus Halls is "finished".

[Daniel]

I remember the discussion but not that that was the final answer.. bleh. That's too bad, since the dungeon is already awesome but leaves the player with so many questions. If the planets are off course and Woran is headed for Vyn, then that means Enderal is also threatened by this since it's on the same planet.. but considering that it was a thousand years~ until the collision between the planets, then we probably won't experience that in Project 5.. possible Project 10 though!

Edit: Where the hell is that 100th symbol? I've been everywhere in the halls now and I can't find it!

[badgesareus]

Where the hell is that 100th symbol? I've been everywhere in the halls now and I can't find it!

Which halls? Iron Fire Halls or Nexus Halls?

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If you have not found the magic symbol in Iron Fire Halls, it is in the area closer to the entrance in Southrealm. There is an area with a Giant blacksmith, and the symbol is against the farther back wall behind him, if I recall correctly.

[Xagul]

According to Daniel's description it's rather the Nexus Halls. Unfortunately I cannot remember where the symbol was hidden in there

[badgesareus]

The magic symbol in Nexus Halls

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I think it is in the planetarium, perhaps behind something like a throne?

[Daniel]

I was talking about the one in the Fire Iron Halls, sorry for just saying halls.. that was kinda stupid.

Anyhow, I have been to the place with the giant smith but I couldn't find it there either. And I hadn't been to that area before since everything was alive and wanting to kill me.

Spent like 10 minutes in every room, including the giant's room, I even flew around with free cam but nothing was there. Seems I actually have 98/100 so there are two symbols missing for me and after spending 2-3 days going through all the 100 locations listed on wikia, I haven't the slightest of where they could be. Is there any possibility of checking the save-file to see which the 2 missing ones are?

[Holomay]

The 100th Magic Symbol ... it's a very persistent rumor.

There are only 99 Magic Symbols in Nehrim 1.5.0.5 (DE) and Nehrim 1.5.0.8 (EN)! There's no Symbol in the Iron Fire Halls! It seems that there once was a 100th Symbol in the Iron Fire Halls in some patch between 1.5.0.0 and the latest patches, but it is not there anymore.

All 100 magic symbols are available in the game now.

Hey badgesareus, can you please tell me your source? Is there still an old Nehrim Wiki article where a 100th Symbol is mentioned? And are you sure that you found a Symbol in the Iron Fire Halls? I guess it was in a pre-1.5.0.8-game?

after spending 2-3 days going through all the 100 locations listed on wikia

Hey Daniel, can you also tell me your source? Where on Wikia (=Nehrim Wiki, right?!) did you find a list with 100 Symbols? This article only lists 99 Symbols:
http://nehrim.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Symbols

For the Symbol hidden in the Nexus Planetarium, have a look at this map:
http://images.wikia.com/nehrim/images/f ... um_map.jpg
You can find the Symbol at a stone near the entrance to the Research Chamber. You can see the stone on the map, just above the "Cha" of "Research Chamber".

If you want to find a Magic Symbol in the Iron Fire Halls, you can download my little Plugin from this thread. Thus, you'll be able to get 100 Symbols and the respective EP reward.

[Daniel]

The 100th Magic Symbol ... it's a very persistent rumor.

I was following the wikia* guide that you linked, and indeed it only has 99 but according to badge's posts I assumed there were 100, so I wrote (for unknown reason, prolly just stupid/tired) 100 x list in that post. Anywho, do you know if it's possible to see which one that I might have missed? If I have 98.. that means I'm 1 symbol off of the 99 official max. Frustrating!

[badgesareus]

There are 100 magic symbols, I have found them all (twice!). The wiki does not list the one in Iron Fire Halls. The only way I know of to determine which one you have missed is to use the wiki list and recheck every location. Maybe the Devs can offer some way to check the files.

[Daniel]

Can you provide us with a screenshot, please? I cannot find it, no matter how much I search.

[badgesareus]

We need DEV help! I went to one of my old, lower level save games where I had not already collected all the magic symbols. As I was at level 7, I used "god" mode to travel to Iron Fire Halls and make my way to the Giant blacksmith ("the Smelter"), and by golly, there was no magic symbol there! I know it was there after English patch 1.5.0.5, but apparently it disappeared somehow by the time patch 1.5.0.8 came out, and the automatic updater automatically updated my files to 1.5.0.8.
EDIT: I checked my download files and it looks like I updated to English 1.5.0.6, not 1.5.0.5, and found the 100th magic symbol after that update.

[Holomay]

Hey badgesareus,

... I used "god" mode to travel to Iron Fire Halls and make my way to the Giant blacksmith ("the Smelter"), and by golly, there was no magic symbol there! I know it was there (...) but apparently it disappeared somehow by the time patch 1.5.0.8 came out

that's exactly the phenomenon I described in my post above:

There are only 99 Magic Symbols in Nehrim 1.5.0.5 (DE) and Nehrim 1.5.0.8 (EN)! There's no Symbol in the Iron Fire Halls! It seems that there once was a 100th Symbol in the Iron Fire Halls in some patch between 1.5.0.0 and the latest patches, but it is not there anymore.

It's good to have it confirmed by someone who actually has found the Magic Symbol in the Iron Fire Halls while it was there! You have taken advantage of the window of opportunity with two different characters which now have a Magic Symbol count of 100.

Players like Daniel who have not found the Symbol in the Iron Fire Halls before patch 1.5.0.8 will not be able to reach a Magic Symbol count of 100. That's why I posted the 100th Magic Symbol Plugin in this thread - a similar discussion about the number of Magic Symbols in the German forum. I made it as a gimmick, but there seems to be quite a demand by thorough players.

As for help ... there's nothing more that can be done right now. If you open the 1.5.0.8 game files with the Construction Set, you can see that the activator named "NehrimSymbol" has a use count of 99. The Nehrim Wiki article exactly lists these places. The loss of the Symbol in the Iron Fire Halls is one of the little bugs that still persist in the latest version of Nehrim. As the development of Enderal is the main priority, the if and when of an actual patch that addresses these issues is unclear.

@Daniel: Are you still searching for the 99th Magic Symbol or have you managed to find all the Symbols that actually exist in 1.5.0.8? There is a method to determine which Symbols you have found so far, and it is faster than visiting each single location again, but it needs some preparation. So please let me know if you're still stuck with 98 Symbols.

[Daniel]

Yes, Holomay, I am still stuck with the 98 symbols.. I have not attempted any further searches since I completed the 100-location-search as it was just too much to go through those places again. Do you want me to upload my save file?

Do you think that SureAI can complete the 100 symbols with your addition in the Iron Fire Halls in a future patch? (not this year, after Enderal)

Good to have the myth busted.

[badgesareus]

I doubt SureAI will worry about the 100th magic symbol. I know nothing about making mods, but I wonder if someone with experience making mods could make a mod that would recreate the 100th magic symbol in Iron Fire Halls and adjust the counter appropriately.

[Daniel]

I doubt SureAI will worry about the 100th magic symbol. I know nothing about making mods, but I wonder if someone with experience making mods could make a mod that would recreate the 100th magic symbol in Iron Fire Halls and adjust the counter appropriately.

Are you posting without reading previous posts?

That's just what Holomay has done! He even linked to the mod he made that adds it! See this thread.

We'll see. I will never take anything they do for granted, but they have shown they care about the community so somewhere down the road if they still have the stuff installed I think we'll get one last patch with final translations of everything forgotten.

[badgesareus]

Are you posting without reading previous posts?

That's just what Holomay has done! He even linked to the mod he made that adds it! See this thread.

I only read English, so I don't pay much attention to links to the Nehrimese-language posts as I can't read it. In any event, I've already found it before the Star People stole it from Iron Fire Halls and it is now hidden in Fat Erwin!