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[arvisrend]

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[batai37]

Care to upload your savegame?

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[batai37]

I used SQT to reveal the quest stage (MQ24), which revealed 32, and it also appeared to show that I'm indeed lacking one item for this stage of the quest. Is it possible to use setstage to set the quest earlier? I tried variously using setstage to 30, 22, even 0 with no apparent effect. Sorry I'm not too familiar with the console codes, and I made sure to make a quicksave before I tried this so I could revert in case something got messed up. Thanks for any help.

[arvisrend]

I think you broke the nightmare wine by your auto harvest mod. The plant is supposed to be clickable and when you click it, instead of the normal harvesting procedure, a script activates itself. Now you harvested it and it is not clickable anymore.

I think this is solvable by writing "coc giliad", resting in Giliad for 3 days, and then writing "coc mq24ostianpalast" to return to the palace. The plant should respawn this way. Don't auto-harvest it next time.

As for the guards, it is "GetLOS player" that determines whether they find you. If they see you (GetLOS == 1), you have 2.5 seconds to run into hiding (GetLOS == 0), otherwise you lose. Sneaking and invisibility are of no use here.

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As for the guards, it is "GetLOS player" that determines whether they find you. If they see you (GetLOS == 1), you have 2.5 seconds to run into hiding (GetLOS == 0), otherwise you lose. Sneaking and invisibility are of no use here.

Ha! I wondered about that. Especially since I kept getting caught sneaking by them slowly with 110 sneak skill. So my invisibility spell meant nothing and it was the fact that since I was confident and moved quickly (because I thought I was invis) that I was successful. Hmph. That's very counter-intuitive and I bet you get a ton of complaints about that.

[batai37]

I think you broke the nightmare wine by your auto harvest mod. The plant is supposed to be clickable and when you click it, instead of the normal harvesting procedure, a script activates itself. Now you harvested it and it is not clickable anymore.

I think this is solvable by writing "coc giliad", resting in Giliad for 3 days, and then writing "coc mq24ostianpalast" to return to the palace. The plant should respawn this way. Don't auto-harvest it next time.

Interesting, I wondered about the mod affecting it but I'm fairly sure that I tried to harvest it before employing the auto harvest spell but I could be mistaken about that. I seem to recall having difficulty harvesting it to begin with, and employed the auto harvest in order to gain the nightmare root. I'll give your suggestion a shot, thanks so much for the help!

[arvisrend]

Ha! I wondered about that. Especially since I kept getting caught sneaking by them slowly with 110 sneak skill. So my invisibility spell meant nothing and it was the fact that since I was confident and moved quickly (because I thought I was invis) that I was successful. Hmph. That's very counter-intuitive and I bet you get a ton of complaints about that.

Not a ton, but let me say it this way: you're not the first complaining.

The thing is, our GetLOS is pretty much deterministic (the guards don't quite change their view direction), while sneak mechanics is chance-based. We are not going to replace a deterministic mechanics by a chance-based one. If there would be a nice way to combine them...

[batai37]

I think you broke the nightmare wine by your auto harvest mod. The plant is supposed to be clickable and when you click it, instead of the normal harvesting procedure, a script activates itself. Now you harvested it and it is not clickable anymore.

I think this is solvable by writing "coc giliad", resting in Giliad for 3 days, and then writing "coc mq24ostianpalast" to return to the palace. The plant should respawn this way. Don't auto-harvest it next time.

As for the guards, it is "GetLOS player" that determines whether they find you. If they see you (GetLOS == 1), you have 2.5 seconds to run into hiding (GetLOS == 0), otherwise you lose. Sneaking and invisibility are of no use here.

Thank you SO MUCH for that, the plant respawned after resting for three days (well 3 days twice actually), and I was able to harvest it and complete the quest.