SureAI

I'm at the part of the quest where you have to go meet Kim in Sildren.
The only problem is that Kim....isn't there.

I've run around the whole area, gone inside every house, completed a ton of other unrelated missions, and even TCL'd through the ground....
and Kim just...isn't there.

Could it be because I'm using a custom race?
(i.e. The Xenius Race Compilation for Nehrim)

or because I changed Kim's gender/appearance using that gaykim/Male Kim Facelift (something like that, it's at the nexus...) mod?

I was thinking that a simple solution would be to move Kim to me with console commands,
the only problem is...I don't know his/her RefID and Google isn't helping me much, either.

I even tried starting a new game with a standard race...same thing, no Kim.
blaaah.
I'd really hate to stop playing because of this.


Sooo, anyone know a solution?
or at least Kim's REFid?
Thanks.

Okay, I made a new character.
Female, Alemanne (or whatever).

Kim...is there.
I got his ID using this new character.

I used the console command "moveto <kim's id>" using my primary character, the one with the Kim not existing error, aaaannndd....nothing.
I moved to where Kim is *supposed* to be...but still, no Kim.
I even tried moving Kim to me with the consoles, and still...nothing.


I even tried putting Kim in Sildren with the CS...which...I don't think worked, because I have no idea how to use the CS properly without crashing it.

Ugh,
It's good news that my game isn't fucked, but its tragic that the only way I'll be able to fix this issue is by using a new character and ditching all of the progress with my primary one. >_<
Damn.

I have zero idea why Kim would be missing and your guess about the mod that alters Kim is probably on the right track but I just looked in the CS for you and the problem is there are TWO Kim's. Four actually but 2 male and 2 female.

Editor ID Form ID

KimFemale 001BBFBO
KimFemaleTot 00202B94

KimMale 001BBFB1
KimMaleTot 00202B8F

My guess is that the one you want is the version without the "Tot." The only reason I say that though is because there is a script associated with the non- "Tot" versions (if that makes any sense). Hopefully one of the games devs will see this and give you a better answer. I know one of the things they like to ask for is a savegame - I guess so they can play it and see the problem first hand.

Edit to add: Yeah I bet it is a mod conflict. You are probably going to need one of the game devs to help you sort it out IF it can be sorted out.

Try PM'ing "arvisrend". I think he is on the SureAI development team.

Alright, thanks.
I'll try that.

But I seem to be doing alright with my new character. :/

Maybe they'll still see this and help anyone else who might be having the same problem as me.
But for now...problem solved.

Usually if Kim is not there, it's because you have used some console cheat to change your gender. However, in your case it is probably a mod incompatibility.
As for gaykim and facelift, maybe these mods alone don't create bugs, but when thrown together ugly stuff can happen...