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batai37 wrote:I did the procedure for getting the nightmare root (frost alcohol salts in blue field, tomatoes in red, hit the lever, light came out), and the light shined from it and all but I can't tell if I harvested anything or not...there's nothing in my inventory called "nightmare root" and there's nothing on or about the root that can be activated, and the green marker for that area is still showing on my map. Giving up on that, trying to search the other part of the palace for the elixir seems impossible as far as I can tell; there are two locked gates I can't get past and I absolutely can't get by that guard to go up the stairs he's facing without being seen even using invisibility. Can someone please advise?
I can upload the savefile if that will help, but I'm unsure of which one...there are several with several filename extensions. Quicksave.ess (most recent)?
edit: O.K. I used TCL to get past the guard...my patience is wearing thin with this quest...and I was able to find and obtain the elixir. However, I still don't have the nightmare root, and when I try to mix the two ingredients I do have in any of the three places for that in the kitchen, nothing happens so I'm assuming nothing will happen until you have all three ingredients. There is nothing I can find on or around that damn root that is harvestable, and the marker for it is still showing on my map. Help anyone?
Another bizarre thing I encountered was that Kim is wandering around and can walk right by that same guard, go up those stairs, and the guard doesn't detect her. She also appears behind locked gates that I can't get through (now that was really annoying). Please help me continue enjoying this awesome conversion!
arvisrend wrote:You still need to activate the harrada-like plant.batai37 wrote:I did the procedure for getting the nightmare root (frost alcohol salts in blue field, tomatoes in red, hit the lever, light came out), and the light shined from it and all but I can't tell if I harvested anything or not...
There are some locked gates which you cannot get through but you can come around the other way. And as for the guards, try being fast.
blink wrote:batai37 wrote:I did the procedure for getting the nightmare root (frost alcohol salts in blue field, tomatoes in red, hit the lever, light came out), and the light shined from it and all but I can't tell if I harvested anything or not...there's nothing in my inventory called "nightmare root" and there's nothing on or about the root that can be activated, and the green marker for that area is still showing on my map. Giving up on that, trying to search the other part of the palace for the elixir seems impossible as far as I can tell; there are two locked gates I can't get past and I absolutely can't get by that guard to go up the stairs he's facing without being seen even using invisibility. Can someone please advise?
I can upload the savefile if that will help, but I'm unsure of which one...there are several with several filename extensions. Quicksave.ess (most recent)?
edit: O.K. I used TCL to get past the guard...my patience is wearing thin with this quest...and I was able to find and obtain the elixir. However, I still don't have the nightmare root, and when I try to mix the two ingredients I do have in any of the three places for that in the kitchen, nothing happens so I'm assuming nothing will happen until you have all three ingredients. There is nothing I can find on or around that damn root that is harvestable, and the marker for it is still showing on my map. Help anyone?
Another bizarre thing I encountered was that Kim is wandering around and can walk right by that same guard, go up those stairs, and the guard doesn't detect her. She also appears behind locked gates that I can't get through (now that was really annoying). Please help me continue enjoying this awesome conversion!Yes on both counts, but now it's a moot point since I got past the troublesome guard using TCL eventually. I alread got the elixir, now my only problem is obtaining the nightmare root.blink wrote:There are several things going on here at once. And it is difficult to help you with this quest because there is so much to it. However there is one sure thing you should be doing in terms of getting past at least one of the guards. At one point in your searching, while trying to avoid the guard, you will come across a hole in the wall that is covered buy "rotting boards" and blocked by movable large stone blocks. Have you come across this hole in the wall and used it? If yes, have you also found the rope ladder that takes you down and gives you another way around the guard?
I put the items in the relevant colored fields in the Ice Steel machine and it activated. The root emitted some light and the player is then supposed to be able to harvest it. The plant, both before and after activating the paralyzing machine, has never acted aggressively, i.e. it did not attack me and I wasn't aware that it's supposed to be hostile until paralyzed. In any case, there is nothing that I can find to indicate anything can be harvested from it.blink wrote:In terms of the nightmare root. I am not sure what is going on for you. In my case there was no "light" that appeared. What is supposed to happen is that after you load the two ingredients into the their respective colored chambers, you are supposed to pull the lever and then what I think is a paralyzing mist of sorts (though I never actually saw that either - just sound) is supposed to be dispensed on to the nightmare root plant adjacent to the machine. This "mist" paralyzes the plant so that you can "activate" the nightmare root plant itself without being knocked over. If you try to activate the plant without having performed this procedure you will know it because the plant will attack you and knock you over. So, after you have pulled the lever, are you attempting to activate the nightmare root itself or no? Are you saying that you have tried to activate (spacebar) the plant but there is no activation icon to allow you to do this? That the plant seems to be a "static' rather than an activatable item?
blink wrote:I can go back and play that section again and give you a detailed walk-through but I am not sure it will help if for some reason your instance is bugged in that the nightmare root isn't, for some crazy reason, able to be activated. You are correct though, you cannot be successful unless you have all three ingredients so there is no point in even going to the kitchen until you have them all. Let me know if you want me to try and write you up a walk-through.
One last thing - the guards can easily be gotten around if you have even them most low level invisibility spell memorized. That has been my experience anyway.
arvisrend wrote:Care to upload your savegame?
arvisrend wrote:As for the guards, it is "GetLOS player" that determines whether they find you. If they see you (GetLOS == 1), you have 2.5 seconds to run into hiding (GetLOS == 0), otherwise you lose. Sneaking and invisibility are of no use here.
arvisrend wrote:I think you broke the nightmare wine by your auto harvest mod. The plant is supposed to be clickable and when you click it, instead of the normal harvesting procedure, a script activates itself. Now you harvested it and it is not clickable anymore.
I think this is solvable by writing "coc giliad", resting in Giliad for 3 days, and then writing "coc mq24ostianpalast" to return to the palace. The plant should respawn this way. Don't auto-harvest it next time.
blink wrote:Ha! I wondered about that. Especially since I kept getting caught sneaking by them slowly with 110 sneak skill. So my invisibility spell meant nothing and it was the fact that since I was confident and moved quickly (because I thought I was invis) that I was successful. Hmph. That's very counter-intuitive and I bet you get a ton of complaints about that.
arvisrend wrote:I think you broke the nightmare wine by your auto harvest mod. The plant is supposed to be clickable and when you click it, instead of the normal harvesting procedure, a script activates itself. Now you harvested it and it is not clickable anymore.
I think this is solvable by writing "coc giliad", resting in Giliad for 3 days, and then writing "coc mq24ostianpalast" to return to the palace. The plant should respawn this way. Don't auto-harvest it next time.
As for the guards, it is "GetLOS player" that determines whether they find you. If they see you (GetLOS == 1), you have 2.5 seconds to run into hiding (GetLOS == 0), otherwise you lose. Sneaking and invisibility are of no use here.