SureAI

I'm running a GTX275, Phenom II X3 720 2.8ghz, 4gb ram.
My system was able to run the original Oblivion with high graphics mods, viewing distance, all of that, very well. Even with antialiasing (2x I believe).

Nehrim however, runs VERY slow for me. I'm getting 20-25fps at most, and a lot of the time 10-15 fps. I'm at a point in the game now where suddenly it's dropping to about 5fps. The game is pretty much unplayable.

The strange thing is, I turned off antialiasing, I've tried turning off the viewing distance, I've turned off shadows, I can't figure out what option would be causing this much of a problem.
I must not be the only person experiencing this... help?

I have some performances probleme too :
In landscape, the probleme is grass and tree detail view range, i put grass to 40 an tree detail 70
In big city (erothin), the probleme is number of object i put object range view to 70 and it's good
in drak forest, the probleme is view distance i put global view range to 10, tree detail 0 and i had rush to treomar (because it's was always little laggy and i didn't saw ennemy)
In battle with many NPC (5-6 or more) I ddon't know what is the probleme i had wait end of battle without fight near cabahet because we have friend

In native oblivion i have sometime performance probleme but it's lower and i havn't down graphical view

And you didn't see real difference in range vision, when you put tree detail/object/grass/actor to 80-90 but that increase performances

Wait are these options in the launcher or in actual Oblivion? Or is this in the .ini or something?

Hi
I'm running 2 x 9800gt sli'd, phenom II (4 cores unlocked) , 4gb ram. I'm getting an average of 40fps (everything set to high).
The game can slow down in parts The Dark Forest FPS almost dies (check forum for solution, there is a consul code), it is a known bug.
A few tips that might help, although you might have allready done them.

1 - Ensure most upto date drivers (there is a beta driver just released if you want to try. It helped by a couple of fps).
2 - Textures ingame eat a lot of video ram. In some areas I've seen High texture settings take 500mb +. So turn texture settings down if GPU does not have high ammount of memory.
3 - Use optimizations of preload memory etc.

Hope this helps a little.

I'm getting TERRIBLE performance (10 FPS in Erothin on Low settings, shadows off) with a Quad Core, 8 gigs RAM, and Radeon HD 5770. It has to be a software issue because I can't even hear my computer trying, no fans are at high, nothing. My PC acts like I'm running an Excel spreadsheet meaning the mod isn't using my hardware.

That is weird. I have maybe half the machine you do. I run things and though I am not using the HIGHEST graphics settings I am using the second best. I have HDR turned on, I have most of the buttons clicked for rendering, relections and some shadows. Except for the rare stuttering when I am running from loaded area to another loaded area it runs like a dream. Runs better than Oblivion in fact.

I have messed with the .ini settings to increase some performance...*shrug* I would think if it was the mod itself that the majority would have the same issues. Not to say there aren't places that the performance can't be improved.

What is most interesting:
I am only at the abby, so I can only check that area. There are places there, where my fps is around 17 no matter what settings I use.

I fired up my Rivatuner to find out what causes this bottleneck. The result: nothing!!

GPU is at 40-50% (depending on shadow, AA settings: this is why graphic settings didn't matter for me. I could turn everything up and still stay below 70%)
CPU1 is at ~70%
CPU2 is at ~75%
Mem usage is ~1.5G (preset in launcher)

No loading happening (I am standing for about 30 seconds).

These readings are the same at the 17fps abbey tunnel, and at the 40fps forest section.

Specs: C2D E8200 (@3,4), 4850 (512M), 2G

BTW: this is my first comment, so I need to tell: this game should have been Oblivion! Best RPG in the past dunno how many years...
SureAI, thanks for your hard works if you read this!

Hi What texture settings are you using. High texture will eat up 512M in some areas.
If you want to check. In consul type (without quotes) "Setdebugtext 13" enter. Then type (without quotes) "tdt".
Press tilde to leave consul, so you can run around. You will now see on left debug info. Texture mem will show how much memory GPU is using. Top right FPS.

Game can slow down in some areas. Depends on a variety of reasons. Hardware and software.

Another tip you can try, is set process priority (in task manager) to above normal. If you set it to high or real time it may affect cd/dvd drive a little. Setting a higher priority can/may improve FPS

Have the same issue. Have a 5870 and a q6600 oced to 3.6ghz with 4GBs of ram. I have horrible performance just about everywhere. The mod is only using about 30% of my GPU and then only about 50% of my CPU. My ram usage shows 72% and the texture memory gets to be around 500mb which shouldn't be a problem since the 5870 has a gig of video ram.

Thanks TheHawk for the tip
vidmem is only 180M so far though, so everythings seems okay.

So what explains the slowdowns then?

Hi
Everybody's system is different. Some run lots of app's in background. Sound cards affect Oblivion engine. Slow hard drives (make sure hd is not getting full). Check Oblivion tweak wiki if its affecting game play so badly. You can find that running ffdshow filter will slow you down etc.

At the moment (because of stupidity on my part, virus on pc I play games on has just had 3 hd's wiped out), playing Nehrim on a pc with specs of: 2gb / AMD64 X2 6000+ /GT9500.
By the looks of it getting about 25fps avg (cannot run fraps kills the game) and apart from the odd stutter when fps drops to 7 or 8 for a second or two. It is playable and quite smooth upto now.

Hi.

In my never ending search for different software. I have just come across "Game Booster Portable". Just put it on my USB stick to try out. It is a beta version, but a couple of nice points allready, is it informs you of any new drivers needed ( my sound card needed updating, took me straight to download on Realtek site). It will defrag game folder. Checks background services etc and offers to close down all unwanted services to go into game mode.
It may not help my FPS here, but at least it helped with updating my drivers.

Hmmm


I'm running Fraps, does it knock this game that much do you think ?

It never occurred to me that Fraps could be knocking perfomance.

Yeah...it like near kills me. I run it sometimes especially when I play wow and it causes major stuttering. Changing the settings on it may help some or just doing it the old fashion way and turn it off until you think something cool will happen? LOL

I hope this solves it.

its odd, Oblivion does this to me also but to a lesser extent than Nehrim.

I'm running a Q9650 (3.00 x 4), 8 gig of DDR3, an SSD hard drive and a Sapphire 5970.

The game just doesn't seem to be using the juice thats on tap.

I can run Crysis maxed out on DX10 and average 60 to 70 fps with 8 x AA and 8 x AF yet with Nehrim I've had to drop to 4 x AA and 4 x AF just to run fairly smoothly but I'm still down to 15 fps in Erothin and other towns.

Can't figure this one out.

2 Meren
It seems that all the above mentioned problems are caused by Nehrim only. There is no link between drivers/hardware and Nehrim perfomance.
Before your post I thought that low perfomance could be caused by drivers.... But now, I doubt
My specs as follows
Phenom II x 4 965 (3.8 Ghz)
M3N-HT HDMI Delux (780a)
2x GTX 480 SLI
4 X WD3200AAKS (Raid 0)
8 gb Ram (DDR2)
Corsair TX 950 W
So, I have the same 15 fps in Erothin and other towns, and my GPU ussage 9%
In other games (e.g GTA IV) I'm getting 85-95% GPU usage and great framerate. In original Oblivion I'm also getting 200+ fps.
By the way Meren what OS do you use ? I'm running the games on Windows 7 x 64. Maybe we have such a terrible perfomance in Nehrim due to 64 bit OS

TheHawk: thanks for the tips, I appreciate your time! You misunderstood me though:

What I was trying to say was that it is not our machines that cause slowdowns, but something else.
Bottlenecks causing slowdowns happen if any part required for application running (CPU/GPU/HDD/mem) is overloaded (meaning usage more than 80-90%, or continous dataflow for HDDs/mem) for a period of time.
In this case if you lower the workload for overloaded parts (like AA for GPU, closing background apps for CPU) slowdowns usually go away (if usage goes below critical line)

My remark was, that it is not the state of my computer causing slowdowns, but something else: since no part was overloaded/used more when slowdowns happened.
Since my GPU wasn't used more than 40% any time, it is all the same if I use no AA or 8x. (A 2x GTX480 gets 9% load, a 4850 gets 40%, an older card may get 60% load, but FPS in cityes remain 15.)
Since my CPU wasn't used more than 70%, it is all the same if I calculating Pi in the background. (If I run something, my CPU load is 95%, if I don't it can go down to 60%, a quadcore OCd may get 20% load and all giving 15 fps)

I don't know much about game engines, it is probable that things get overloaded without actual hardware overload, but still I showed my findings for someone more experienced than me.

Hi
Seen no difference between 64 bit and 32 bit so far ( had to reinstall OS due to viruses wiping drives out and changed to 32 bit ).
Had Nehrim on my other pc running a 9500GT and now back to this one running GTS9800 X 2, Phenom with 4 cores unlocked and twice as much memory. Still can only get 10 to 15 fps more, and yes it does slow down round cities to 15 to 20 fps at times.
Its not always cpu's/gpu's that can cause slow fps. Apart from sound cards and system drivers, there is running mods which try to render too much at different times. Running Nehrim (a mod) the ammount of files needed to load at different times must be larger than Oblivion ever needed to.
Game engines have there own peculiarities as well i.e Gothic (almost gave in playing at one time) which leaked memory non stop and was only found out after a long time. Now Nehrim has much better graphics and sound (I believe )to Oblivion, maybe its pushing the boundaries so far.

Running Win 7 64 bit but have also tried it on the kitchen rig (Intel dual core 2.66, 4 gig DDR2, Sapphire 5870, Win 7 32 bit) and get similar results.

Hawk

You just gave me an idea and I checked out the sound files, some of them are at 320 kbps and are huge, one of the town tracks is over 13 mb in size, wonder if that could account for our slowdowns in towns.

Hi Could try disabling sound in ini file. Although I dont think it would stop the files trying to load.