SureAI

Last night I was following Narathzul Arantheal through this dungeon. At some point, he asks you for the large crystal that you picked up at the start of the dungeon. All he did was walk into the room, ask me to give him the crystal (how???) and then walked over to one of the crystal platforms on the right and now just stands there.

The room is (MQ16Tempel03) Well, I have no idea what to do here or what the problem is. I tried dropping it through the window and later tried using telekinesis to give him the crystal. He does nothing and the door in front of me stays locked.

I ghosted the whole dungeon looking for another crystal since he says something like "I need the crystals you found." (Only one in the dungeon I saw) and finally looked at the editor. It seems he must have another crystal since we did everything 2x2. Well, either he did not activate the first crystal platform or I am going crazy. I tried everything I could think of:

A: using the crystal = no effect.
B: Dropping through window = no effect
C: Telekinesis to him = no effect.
D: Duplicating the large crystal = Have not tried.

I looked at the script for MQ16Station03, but I did not understand it.

Sadly, I lost an important save state, and all I have are the current ones right at where I am stuck; therefore, I could not repeat this room. I was so happy to get past the room with the bombs after saving Narathzul from the gas chamber - And I forgot to save before I went into this room because I timed it wrong, I guess.


I put my save state on here in case you wanted to see my problem (if it is a problem) or tell me what I am doing wrong in this room because I do not know what I am supposed to do here.

hi, you are above him on a walk way and unable to jump down to him.
At one end - near the locked door - is an open section without a grill on it.
open your inventory and 'shift + click' the large crystal to drop it onto the floor.
Close your inventory.
Then use the 'Z' key to move the crystal over the edge of the walkway and onto the floor infront of him.
He will then pick it up and open the door for you.
NOTE: I tried a few times before I realised I was dropping the wrong crystal! dur!
Hope this helps.

PS. when he first enters his room he puts his crystal on a pedistal to the right of a door in the upper left corner of the room.

I just tried dropping the crystal through the open window to him. It falls to the floor and he just stands there.

All I have are 1 large crystal, 1 teleport stone, and a bunch of soul gems plus Tarandor's quest gem. I dropped all of them plus my entire inventory into the open room he is in. He still just stands there. He doesn't move to pick anything up.

I ghosted over to him and put the crystal at his foot. That did nothing. I thought maybe it worked like the Treomar crystals needing to be placed manually on the pedestal. That did nothing.

P.S. He never put his crystal on the pedestal. It is empty.

This might seem a silly question, but did you kill the two spiders before you entered that corridor. I found after I sneaked past them had the same problem. Had to go back and kill them.

Funny you should mention that, I killed them and looted their bodies thinking they had some key I missed.

I really hate to restart from a very old save state (assault on the Sanctuary after the trip to Arktwend).
Perhaps there is a command code that will force him to move into the next room or next stage?

I tried unlocking and going through the door with the command console cheat, but nothing forced Narathzul to move on to the next area.

I will keep trying. Not sure what to do though.

Sounds dodgy
I know i had to quick save and try a couple of times.
he stands looking at you after placing the crystal he carries on the pedistal.I remember in the end i dropped the crystal over the side and he took it.

Perhaps you have to wait until he's in the room before you try to open the door. I seem to remember him saying something about the door after I'd tried it and before I dropped the crystal

This is very strange. For some reason, the game thinks you have already dropped the crystal to Narahtzul, but you don't. The corresponding script:
I have no idea how the OnTrigger could fire without actually being triggered. This could be an engine bug.

Quickest fix:
"set mq16.state to 2
setstage mq16 110"
This lets you proceed directly to the next quest. You miss one riddle and some dialogue.

Well, I admit I never saw him put his crystal up first.

I dropped the thing on the floor after he asked for mine. At this point, he simply moved over to the second one and stopped. I started using the telekinesis ability on the crystal to move it closer thinking I was supposed to toss it over to him.

This is why I should not be rushing through quests at 3:00 AM.

So, wait, do I see it right that he SAID he put his crystal into the podest, but actually he didn't?

Well, I do not remember the exact dialogue. Something like "I need the crystals we've found to pass through." He didn't say how...obviously it would not have been a puzzle otherwise.

I do not remember him saying anything more than that though.

I have noticed that if I open my inventory up in the middle of dialogue I can miss stuff. Characters will have talking animation, but nothing coming out and other funky things.

It could be I opened my inventory when he was standing at his pedestal. This is probably what did it.