alright, ill deactivate my copies of SkyUI and MCM as well as BDC .. though after testing i found the main source of the issue. its my conjure chest mod actually, oddly enough.. i was able to replicate the issue with the mod on, and with the mod off, there was no longer an issue with the ground. disappointing because its one of my favorite mods to use lol.. oh well.
-Edit- the duplicate skyui and MCM's makes sense because i did notice that the widgets from "a matter of time" would freak out from time to time, or the "skyrim" time globe wouldnt load properly while the "real" time globe i had setup would, but i f you restarted the game, there was a chance that whole mod would run with no issues. i had no idea why it was doing that, but now i fifugre that it was both SkyUI and MCMs fighting with each other. -end edit-
for "better ragdolls" im not really sure, it makes more sense to me to only have one of the options on, but its not one of the mods i normaly ran when i playing regular skyrim modded a while back
and "faster arrows" is a newer mod that i found so i might have too many of its esp active at one time, it automatically activated all of the esps when i activated the mod and so did better ragdolls, strangely
for future reference and possible conflict listing (i dont know if you guys do that) heres the mod's nexus page
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1 ... escription
and on a side (half unrelated

) note, i found out that another mod that i wanted to use called Sneak Tools, causes an instant CTD so its apparently HIGHLY incompatible as well
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19447
-edit- thank you for takin a look and letting me know about those conflict issues before hand. -end edit-