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Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheHawk
Posted: 06.12.2010 15:49
Hi.
I have no intention of tackling too many walkthroughs, especially seeing how damn good yours have been.
Although when next update out and I play through again would love too take some really decent screenshots too add to your pages.
I have no intention of tackling too many walkthroughs, especially seeing how damn good yours have been.
Although when next update out and I play through again would love too take some really decent screenshots too add to your pages.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by Shatar
Posted: 06.12.2010 17:56
Hello,
Good news! I finally got a response from the Wikia support concerning our inactive admin!!
On 10 December 2010, Bec 82 will be inactive for two months, since his last contribution was on 10 October 2010. In the meantime, we can discuss which one of us will be admin for Nehrim Wiki. When the majority has made a decision, the candidate can request adoption at the site mentioned above. That page consists of a rather large list of other adoption requests.
Cheers
Good news! I finally got a response from the Wikia support concerning our inactive admin!!
Hi Tom,
Thanks for contacting Wikia with your question. Once the admin has been inactive for 60 days, the Wiki is eligible for adoption. If there are several members active, then a discussion should be held to decide who will become the new admin(s). Then you can make a request at:
http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Communi ... n_requests
That page has a complete list of the adoption criteria as well. Good luck!
cheers,
Wendy aka Merrystar
Wikia Community Support
Ask a question at http://forums.wikia.com
Cheers
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 06.12.2010 19:56
Great job, Shatar!
So they do confirm that there can be more than one admin.
That would mean that we can choose the 'head' admin and I think Hawk or you would be ideal, as both of you seem to know the a lot about technical issues. I would rather not interfere with these, as I've already messed up a little
So they do confirm that there can be more than one admin.
That would mean that we can choose the 'head' admin and I think Hawk or you would be ideal, as both of you seem to know the a lot about technical issues. I would rather not interfere with these, as I've already messed up a little
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by Shatar
Posted: 06.12.2010 22:54
Hehe, don't be to harsh for yourself kassandra. You're also doing a really great job on the Wiki by providing a lot of information for us! 
(how the pages are organised is just a small and less important matter)
About managing as an admin: it's not that hard I guess. Those who aren't skilled with admin rights can read the admin guide on Wikia's main site. (I'll study that a bit next to my other studies xD)
Cheers
(how the pages are organised is just a small and less important matter
)About managing as an admin: it's not that hard I guess. Those who aren't skilled with admin rights can read the admin guide on Wikia's main site. (I'll study that a bit next to my other studies xD)
Cheers
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheHawk
Posted: 06.12.2010 23:10
Hi.
Glad you said that first Shatar ( I might come across as being too nice otherwise
). I think we have all made a few mistakes. All easy to put right.
Have to put this here for Arvisrend. Great re-work of my attempted walkthrough, very impressed and thankful. More used to writing poetry and short stories with totally ambiguous words and meanings. So writing walkthrough/manual my mind wande............ where was I?
oh yes. Cheers
Glad you said that first Shatar ( I might come across as being too nice otherwise
). I think we have all made a few mistakes. All easy to put right. Have to put this here for Arvisrend. Great re-work of my attempted walkthrough, very impressed and thankful. More used to writing poetry and short stories with totally ambiguous words and meanings. So writing walkthrough/manual my mind wande............ where was I?
oh yes. Cheers
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 06.12.2010 23:51
Wow thanks guys, I may seem a bit insecure as these are my first 'official' writings in English and actually approved by the natives! Luckily for me Hawk, I am not able to produce any poetry with ambiguous meanings in English, haha.
But still it's great that you did these walkthroughs Hawk. It's much easier to edit than write, so it saves us all a lot of time.
And yes, I know I'm saying it again, but thank you for helping us Arvisrend.
( I hope I'm not TOO nice. How can one be too nice, Hawk?:P)
But still it's great that you did these walkthroughs Hawk. It's much easier to edit than write, so it saves us all a lot of time.
And yes, I know I'm saying it again, but thank you for helping us Arvisrend.
( I hope I'm not TOO nice. How can one be too nice, Hawk?:P)
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by blink
Posted: 07.12.2010 05:14
Hey all,
I was planning on putting a "stats" sub-section on the "People" (NPC's) that I edited and was wondering where you all think it should go? I had initially put it under "description," and I think that would probably be fine for minor NPC's who don't have lengthy descriptions, but I was looking at the very well done page on Narathzul Arantheal, with all of that descriptive info on him, and I was thinking that perhaps just sticking a "stats" sub-section into the "description" of a major NPC, like I was initially going to do, would look.... inelegant. So, in the interest of consistency, I was wondering if we could all come to a consensus as to where to put the stats sub-section. I was thinking of sticking the characters stats in the "Notes" section for each character. What do you all think? I really have no preference except that, like I said, I think it perhaps sticks out badly in the descriptions of major NPC's and thus, the way I was initially going to do it, is inelegant.
BTW, if anyone is wondering how I got the Stats of the NPC's, I did it by finding them and then casting that "Voodoo Eye" spell on them. I would guess we could do it with the Construction Set also but it was just easier for me to do it in-game. I can't remember where I bought the Voodoo Eye spell though.
I was planning on putting a "stats" sub-section on the "People" (NPC's) that I edited and was wondering where you all think it should go? I had initially put it under "description," and I think that would probably be fine for minor NPC's who don't have lengthy descriptions, but I was looking at the very well done page on Narathzul Arantheal, with all of that descriptive info on him, and I was thinking that perhaps just sticking a "stats" sub-section into the "description" of a major NPC, like I was initially going to do, would look.... inelegant. So, in the interest of consistency, I was wondering if we could all come to a consensus as to where to put the stats sub-section. I was thinking of sticking the characters stats in the "Notes" section for each character. What do you all think? I really have no preference except that, like I said, I think it perhaps sticks out badly in the descriptions of major NPC's and thus, the way I was initially going to do it, is inelegant.
BTW, if anyone is wondering how I got the Stats of the NPC's, I did it by finding them and then casting that "Voodoo Eye" spell on them. I would guess we could do it with the Construction Set also but it was just easier for me to do it in-game. I can't remember where I bought the Voodoo Eye spell though.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by blink
Posted: 07.12.2010 06:12
Another thought I had was that, once you all have decided on an administrator(s) to oversee the Nehrim Wiki site, I think it might be a good idea if we begin to "advertise" it a bit. Not with the intention of getting page hits or anything...lol. But rather to get some more help editing it! There are at least a few gaming forums that I run across from time to time that have Nehrim threads on them with people asking questions. I just think it might be smart to visit the English speaking gaming forums that already have a bit of a Nehrim presence and let the forum members know that there is a Nehrim Wiki and that it needs contributors.
I would not advertise, however, until there is a Wiki administrator or administrators in place to deal with potential problem people who would edit the Wiki in a bad way just for their own amusement.
Just a thought anyway.
I would not advertise, however, until there is a Wiki administrator or administrators in place to deal with potential problem people who would edit the Wiki in a bad way just for their own amusement.
Just a thought anyway.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by Shatar
Posted: 07.12.2010 08:16
kassandra wrote:Wow thanks guys, I may seem a bit insecure as these are my first 'official' writings in English and actually approved by the natives!
)blink wrote: I was planning on putting a "stats" sub-section on the "People" (NPC's) that I edited and was wondering where you all think it should go? I had initially put it under "description," and I think that would probably be fine for minor NPC's who don't have lengthy descriptions, but I was looking at the very well done page on Narathzul Arantheal, with all of that descriptive info on him, and I was thinking that perhaps just sticking a "stats" sub-section into the "description" of a major NPC, like I was initially going to do, would look.... inelegant. So, in the interest of consistency, I was wondering if we could all come to a consensus as to where to put the stats sub-section. I was thinking of sticking the characters stats in the "Notes" section for each character. What do you all think? I really have no preference except that, like I said, I think it perhaps sticks out badly in the descriptions of major NPC's and thus, the way I was initially going to do it, is inelegant.
BTW, if anyone is wondering how I got the Stats of the NPC's, I did it by finding them and then casting that "Voodoo Eye" spell on them. I would guess we could do it with the Construction Set also but it was just easier for me to do it in-game. I can't remember where I bought the Voodoo Eye spell though.
You could make an independent 'Stats' section on the page? Maybe above 'Notes' or something? Just my oppinion.
If I'm correct, then you could get the Voodoo Eye spell from several spell trainers.
blink wrote:Another thought I had was that, once you all have decided on an administrator(s) to oversee the Nehrim Wiki site, I think it might be a good idea if we begin to "advertise" it a bit. Not with the intention of getting page hits or anything...lol. But rather to get some more help editing it! There are at least a few gaming forums that I run across from time to time that have Nehrim threads on them with people asking questions. I just think it might be smart to visit the English speaking gaming forums that already have a bit of a Nehrim presence and let the forum members know that there is a Nehrim Wiki and that it needs contributors.
I would not advertise, however, until there is a Wiki administrator or administrators in place to deal with potential problem people who would edit the Wiki in a bad way just for their own amusement.
Cheers
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 07.12.2010 08:20
Hm I didn't knoe Voodoo Eye show hp but good to know I have to start using it soon.
As for the stats- maybe we can put it before description ? It doesn't look that bad, I guess : http://nehrim.wikia.com/wiki/Aspheron
And Blink, next time you enter Wiki click on community button (above pages counter) -->forums
And yes, we definitely would need more people to speed up at least the quests section as Hawk will be leaving us for a few weeks soon
As for the stats- maybe we can put it before description ? It doesn't look that bad, I guess : http://nehrim.wikia.com/wiki/Aspheron
And Blink, next time you enter Wiki click on community button (above pages counter) -->forums
And yes, we definitely would need more people to speed up at least the quests section as Hawk will be leaving us for a few weeks soon
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by blink
Posted: 07.12.2010 16:21
I have no opinion about who becomes admin other than to say I think it might be a good idea to include one of the "official" members of, if not the SureAI team itself, one of the English speaking moderators or administrators from here at the official forums. Does that make sense? The reason I say this is because, let's say that Shatar and Hawk were to assume the Wiki admin duties now. Eventually they may have something unexpected come up in life that would cause them to leave and not return. They may not have the time or couldn't pass along the administrators "password" or whatever is needed to someone else. But, if one of the people who was directly dedicated to SureAI and/or the official Nehrim Forums had top administrative rights then that would never be a problem. They would pretty much always be around to appoint new administrators.
So, I guess my suggestion is that someone get into contact with an English speaking, official Nehrim Forum moderator and/or member of the SureAI team and ask them to assume the figure-head responsibility of Top Wiki Administrator. It could be explained to them that they were not, for now at least, expected to do any actual work on the Wiki if they did not want to but that they were responsible for "holding the keys" to the Wiki in case the Wiki ever needed future, new Administrators. Make sense?
For instance, you could have Arvisrend (is s/he a moderator here or member of the SureAI team?) hold the top administrative rights and have Shatar and Hawk also have administrative rights. That way if Shatar and/or Hawk had to be absent for long periods of time, Arvisrend could at least allow any new person who was interested, to assume the administrative duties over at the Nehrim Wiki.
So, I guess my suggestion is that someone get into contact with an English speaking, official Nehrim Forum moderator and/or member of the SureAI team and ask them to assume the figure-head responsibility of Top Wiki Administrator. It could be explained to them that they were not, for now at least, expected to do any actual work on the Wiki if they did not want to but that they were responsible for "holding the keys" to the Wiki in case the Wiki ever needed future, new Administrators. Make sense?
For instance, you could have Arvisrend (is s/he a moderator here or member of the SureAI team?) hold the top administrative rights and have Shatar and Hawk also have administrative rights. That way if Shatar and/or Hawk had to be absent for long periods of time, Arvisrend could at least allow any new person who was interested, to assume the administrative duties over at the Nehrim Wiki.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 07.12.2010 17:59
Hey Blink!
First of all ,we need to have the new administrators.
When it is done and we have the passwords, etc - I can contact Arvisred if he would be so kind to be our 'password keeper' in case something untoward happens to us. Why he? He already has Wiki account:P And yes, he is one of the SureIA team members.
I alsko asked him for some clues/directions as how to tackle the SureAI section on Wiki, but he advised me to contact Hoxyd, Lord Dagon or Arandor about it. As I am actually busy proceeding with the main quest and writing walkthroughs to it ( that's why most people search for the wiki I guess... I can't see to it at the moment. Unless one of you wants to:P
First of all ,we need to have the new administrators.
When it is done and we have the passwords, etc - I can contact Arvisred if he would be so kind to be our 'password keeper' in case something untoward happens to us. Why he? He already has Wiki account:P And yes, he is one of the SureIA team members.
I alsko asked him for some clues/directions as how to tackle the SureAI section on Wiki, but he advised me to contact Hoxyd, Lord Dagon or Arandor about it. As I am actually busy proceeding with the main quest and writing walkthroughs to it ( that's why most people search for the wiki I guess...
I can't see to it at the moment. Unless one of you wants to:P
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheHawk
Posted: 07.12.2010 19:29
Hi.
I always thought none native English speakers were much more eloquent and precise grammatically. Shatar and Kassandra prove my point.
Over Admin - more than happy to see arvisrend on admin team (team), be it "key holder", full time/ part time admin.
I believe expertise and experience is a wonderful thing, enthusiasm just as good, ideas of any type - marvelous. Learn from each other and grow stronger from it ( okay I am not going mad - just another definition of "cross-polination" for Kassandra).
I think your right not to advertise the site quite yet. Not until some admin contol over the wiki. Thought a little about it the other day. If trying to get word of it out (later on), another way is find where site is (what page ,rank on google, blng etc), and get friends or colleagues to click on it. Nowadays spider-bots not only look at hits but individual ip's hitting the site. Hits from linked pages (I think) do not count as high as individual link hits.
The stats section looks great where Kassandra has put it, but would it also be worthwhile (do not know, maybe too much work) to link the stat to an individual stat sheet/page with a "league table".
Over SureAi section (do not believe I will be arround long enough to do anything there yet), thinking be nice to have page on each member, if they did not mind sending "cv" / mission statement - or even letting them do the page/section.
Talking "mission statements" (hate them myself, some years back spent too long as a Team Leader/supervisor to trust them), but would it be an idea to have short paragraph at top of wiki explaining what wiki is about.
Edit: For blink. Have not used Firefox for a while, but just downloaded (now have 3 or is it 4 browsers? who cares!!!) it and could not get spellchecker to work. Not until downloaded English (british) dictionary and chose it in options. Now I have damn red marks everywhere!!!!!
I always thought none native English speakers were much more eloquent and precise grammatically. Shatar and Kassandra prove my point.
Over Admin - more than happy to see arvisrend on admin team (team), be it "key holder", full time/ part time admin.
I believe expertise and experience is a wonderful thing, enthusiasm just as good, ideas of any type - marvelous. Learn from each other and grow stronger from it ( okay I am not going mad - just another definition of "cross-polination" for Kassandra).
I think your right not to advertise the site quite yet. Not until some admin contol over the wiki. Thought a little about it the other day. If trying to get word of it out (later on), another way is find where site is (what page ,rank on google, blng etc), and get friends or colleagues to click on it. Nowadays spider-bots not only look at hits but individual ip's hitting the site. Hits from linked pages (I think) do not count as high as individual link hits.
The stats section looks great where Kassandra has put it, but would it also be worthwhile (do not know, maybe too much work) to link the stat to an individual stat sheet/page with a "league table".
Over SureAi section (do not believe I will be arround long enough to do anything there yet), thinking be nice to have page on each member, if they did not mind sending "cv" / mission statement - or even letting them do the page/section.
Talking "mission statements" (hate them myself, some years back spent too long as a Team Leader/supervisor to trust them), but would it be an idea to have short paragraph at top of wiki explaining what wiki is about.
Edit: For blink. Have not used Firefox for a while, but just downloaded (now have 3 or is it 4 browsers? who cares!!!) it and could not get spellchecker to work. Not until downloaded English (british) dictionary and chose it in options. Now I have damn red marks everywhere!!!!!
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by Shatar
Posted: 07.12.2010 23:17
Hello,
Indeed. I agree that having an official Nehrim team member as an admin is the safest way to ensure that Nehrim Wiki does not "die". Better safe than sorry!
Around mid Januari, I will undergo examinations for Journalism and during these days I'll be very inactive till Februari. But then I know that my absence will not affect the Wiki.
Cheers
Indeed. I agree that having an official Nehrim team member as an admin is the safest way to ensure that Nehrim Wiki does not "die". Better safe than sorry!
Around mid Januari, I will undergo examinations for Journalism and during these days I'll be very inactive till Februari. But then I know that my absence will not affect the Wiki.
Cheers
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by blink
Posted: 09.12.2010 04:45
Nice screens Hawk. It's nice to see those go up next to the walkthroughs. Really gives them a "face."
I am going to continue working on the side-quest walkthroughs if no one objects. I think I will do "Traces," "Artifacts from the Past" and "The Missing Master Brewer" in the next few days.
I am going to continue working on the side-quest walkthroughs if no one objects. I think I will do "Traces," "Artifacts from the Past" and "The Missing Master Brewer" in the next few days.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 09.12.2010 11:30
Hi!
Check the Watercooler topics on Wiki forum please, as I need some help with the layout of some of the sections.
And please do tackle the Side quests,Blink. No one else seems to be interested in them
I started editing some of the side quests, but I don't think I will finish them in the near future as I'm focusing on Main Quest... So feel free to edit mine as well:P
And I was also thinking if it would help if we did a very short and easy 'guide' on how to edit wiki (only really basic information) and put it somewhere on Wiki page but I don't where... Maybe it would encourage more people to joins us and edit some parts. Like Blink, I also spend some time figuring out how to tackle this mysterious 'table of contents' . It was quite confusing as it didn't appear in preview.
Check the Watercooler topics on Wiki forum please, as I need some help with the layout of some of the sections.
And please do tackle the Side quests,Blink. No one else seems to be interested in them
I started editing some of the side quests, but I don't think I will finish them in the near future as I'm focusing on Main Quest... So feel free to edit mine as well:P
And I was also thinking if it would help if we did a very short and easy 'guide' on how to edit wiki (only really basic information) and put it somewhere on Wiki page but I don't where... Maybe it would encourage more people to joins us and edit some parts. Like Blink, I also spend some time figuring out how to tackle this mysterious 'table of contents' . It was quite confusing as it didn't appear in preview.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheHawk
Posted: 09.12.2010 16:14
Hi.
maybe could find a place to put link to the MediaWiki sandbox. Check out here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sandbox it is a testing area for editing.
very short and easy 'guide' on how to edit wiki
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by Shatar
Posted: 10.12.2010 01:37
Hello,
It's now 1:30 am in my timezone and it's 10 October 2010, so that means we are eligible to adopt Nehrim Wiki!
I have made my request on the Wikia Adoptions page to get the admin rights for Nehrim Wiki. Now we only have to wait for a response (which could take a couple of days). I will inform you when the request is approved or declined.
Some of you might have seen that I haven't made a lot of edits in the past few days. Due to some other interests I haven't played Nehrim much. I still check the forums and our WIki daily though. So don't worry, I will continue playing Nehrim soon.
Cheers
It's now 1:30 am in my timezone and it's 10 October 2010, so that means we are eligible to adopt Nehrim Wiki!
I have made my request on the Wikia Adoptions page to get the admin rights for Nehrim Wiki. Now we only have to wait for a response (which could take a couple of days). I will inform you when the request is approved or declined.
Some of you might have seen that I haven't made a lot of edits in the past few days. Due to some other interests I haven't played Nehrim much. I still check the forums and our WIki daily though. So don't worry, I will continue playing Nehrim soon.
Cheers
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by blink
Posted: 10.12.2010 04:38
Is it just me or is the Nehrim Wiki down? I am having real trouble accessing it all of the sudden. It comes up but it isn't right at all and Peerblock is having to block a ton of requests from some group called "beyond the network America." They are attempting to hammer my PC. Dickheads. Will check again in the morning.
Edit to add: I just tried it again and yep, it has crashed. They say they are working on the problem. So, just FYI.
Edit to add: I just tried it again and yep, it has crashed. They say they are working on the problem. So, just FYI.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by himmelslicht
Posted: 10.12.2010 06:18
For me it works. Maybe its fixed already?
One note to the Knowledge is superior to the sword quest. You wrote that you have to read 100 different books to finish the quest. You can read 100x the same book (keep open and close it) or even letters. The game cannot differ between what you read, so all that counts is the 'books read' counter you also find in Oblivion. It can be the same title, even the same item.
One note to the Knowledge is superior to the sword quest. You wrote that you have to read 100 different books to finish the quest. You can read 100x the same book (keep open and close it) or even letters. The game cannot differ between what you read, so all that counts is the 'books read' counter you also find in Oblivion. It can be the same title, even the same item.
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