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Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 25.01.2011 18:56
Wow, pretty quick response form the Community !
So, it's a bug indeed. I guess if it isn't fixed until tomorrow I will write to the Support. But it will take a while to wait for their response....
http://community.wikia.com/index.php?ti ... 0125174423
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheGunnerBoat
Posted: 25.01.2011 19:02
You see the buttons are there for a fraction of a second, but on loading the top image it covers all buttons.

EDIT
Confirmed, if you see the code page on the browser is clear that the buttons are there, you just can't see them.
Must be something with page top header code gone wrong.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheGunnerBoat
Posted: 25.01.2011 19:34
Nevermind.
But after some brain frying on my own it could be something to with their global code behaviour.
http://community.wikia.com/index.php?ti ... 0124194051
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheGunnerBoat
Posted: 25.01.2011 19:43
I see it was something to do with the css, to which we don't have access either way, there is where a founder-admin must come in.
.WikiaHeader {
  z-index: 0;
}
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 25.01.2011 19:48
Uh, we do have access to it, but need to contact Toxic. She knows how to do it ! I will write a message to her on FB.


EDIT: Not sure if it will work because one guy answere din the topic that he did it and it didn' t help...
Btw I see someone is trying to fix it but I see he can't manage either^^ And if Toxic won't figure out, we'll need to wait for the Support team.... I can't figure out how to access CSS...
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheHawk
Posted: 25.01.2011 20:17
Hi.

Sorry to interrupt such a serious topic, but

1)
Talk Page because
Being the lazy type. What is a talk page? How to set one up? Does anyone want to talk to me? :mrgreen:

2)@Garnet. Just took a longer look at people. WOW. Huge project. So before I start putting my sticky fingers everywhere, a few questions. I have just reorganised my Nehrim installs and have started again with a new character/s and have taken a couple of screenshots along the way. Gerold the Hunter, Kabbet the Peddler and Travelling Dealer. Now, is Travelling dealer Generic and others common? Do I have to link/add them to Generic/common and Abbey Tirin and alphabetically?

3)@ Kassandra. I have read some Main Quest pieces and will start editing soon, (most likely someone will edit my edits). Will not change much around, honest, I will be gentle. :lol: p.s am really impressed by how good its all looking.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by Garnet
Posted: 25.01.2011 21:22
Being the lazy type. What is a talk page? How to set one up? Does anyone want to talk to me? :mrgreen:
It depends on your Personality Skill :)
And before you put your ...fingers, take a deep breath and read http://nehrim.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_How-To

The People page is huge, but is easy to deal with., mean if you don't write a biography. The big deal are ruins and similar places.
About Traveler dealers, they are only two in game, look under Middlerealm other Merchants, you can put them under Generic.
Otherwise, edit Edited is very common work on Wikia.

About Wiki troubles, there is an option in Firefox, under View is Page source, when open you get something like Source mode,
if this helps somehow. :?:
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 25.01.2011 21:50
Hawk, Talk Pages are supposed to be in your User Profile (but there aren't any, because Wika is buggy) and we use them to communicate with those contributors who either don't have a SureAI account here or just don't write anything here. It's like leaving a message on their page to help them out a bit.

And it's not such a big deal with the bug because everything seems to be fine, something just got messed up in .css while upgrading automatically to the new Wiki version. It's annoying for contributors who are not accustomed to editing. You can still edit the pages but you need to add something manually to the URL you want to edit (wrote how to do it on Main Page: http://nehrim.wikia.com/wiki/Nehrim_Wiki).
Hope it hels with editing as I do not know when they will tackle the problem as it seems they expect a lot of bug reports....

And yes Hawk, the Wikia has changed a lot. And quite a lot of people are editing, I didn't expect the page to be that popular. Well, Nehrim is not a commercial game, so I was afraid only 3 of us (Shata, you and me) would edit the page. At first when we asked, not many people decided to join in. It just shows how popular Nehrim is. Luckily, all the people who contribute are extremely nice and we had no problems, no need to rollback or anything.

And as for people, add to alphabetical list maybe first. Then we can sort it out and put into other categories when at least this one is ready. And Garnet will decide who is Generic and who not;p Alphabetical list is the most convenient as you don't have to think what 'type ' of person it is.

As for .css Garnet I don't understand anything from this Source mode;p And I don't think it's Nehrim Wiki's .css as it should be somehow tied to this Wikia page ? and couldn't find save/preview buttons :P
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheHawk
Posted: 25.01.2011 22:00
Hi.
Thanks for quick response.

@Garnet
It depends on your Personality Skill
lets think....... ahhh yes. Its Zero,null,nul,cero and if thats not enough well......

Over People page, I am quite au fait with wiki (I think), it was just me ensuring I do the same as you i.e. if you added a character to generic and they were inhabitants of a city, say Erothin. Then I was guessing I would have to add character to generic and add him to Erothin and then if the character was not already in Alphabetic section, then add them their as well. Just to keep things balanced.

anyways cheers :wink:

edit..
@Kassandra. thankyou. Am going to play a bit more (just started again) and look over wikia bit more. Also trying to think of race to create, but not really knowing to much of Nehrim lore. Was thinking along lines of an ostracised Aetearna sect from before the wars, living in tunnels/caves under volcanoes. Have slight magical ability (which is why ostracised from area they lived), now seeing chance to return to homelands if magic no longer outlawed. Smaller and darker than Aeterna, but faster and more agile.
Take your tip and if adding people just add to Alphabetic section for now.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by Garnet
Posted: 25.01.2011 22:29
I see that In the meantime while Wiki is broke we have a nice chit-chat.

For Generic people goes all NPC's with the same name like Soldiers, Bards, the same for Hostiles like Bandits, Robbers etc.
And I'm not who decide about People. 8)

Is sad that Nehrim isn't so popular, but maybe with time it become a sort of Cult game. For me is the best game that I have ever
played.

BTW where can we see the number of Wiki visitors?
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 25.01.2011 22:54
@Garnet
Haha, would be great to have a chat option somewhere ;P
At the bottom of Wiki Page you have my tools: Edit my tools:List of Advanced Contributor Tools: you will have a log list , find :Special: Most Popular Pages and Most Visited Pages. I added them to my quick navif My Tools. You can add any of there to your My Tools.

And this WIik-How-To... in a few weeks maybe I will get to organizing it better. Was writing it really quickly when I figured out something I just put it there.

@Hawk
Hawk, hm.... about your personality, I'd say it's maxed :P It just reminds me of something... weren't it you or Shatar who said that I was too harsh for myself?:P
If you have any questions about Wiki don't hesitate to ask. It took us a few WEEKs to figure out some things. For instance, I noticed that photos are best used in Tables. It's really easy and you can get a new layout. One Photo per one cell and no problems with adding photos ! It was pretty annoying , at least for me, when I put a photo somewhere and in edit mode it was somewhere else...

Uh, I hope they do manage to fix Wikia soon, I checked People pages and the Alphabetical order was gone under this 'upper' layer that covers everything... But managed to find it in edit mode and it should be fixed now. As for people, I experimented a bit with Infoboxes : http://nehrim.wikia.com/wiki/Aspheron
Would be great to change the colour of course because not it doesn't look much attractive. But pretty interesting.

Btw you have Multiple Upload here : http://nehrim.wikia.com/wiki/Special:MultipleUpload
So no more uploading one photo after another:p Just found it when searching info for Garnet.

Btw... after the upgrade my Wiki is not laggy !!! Hope it stays like that.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheHawk
Posted: 25.01.2011 23:18
Hi
BTW where can we see the number of Wiki visitors?
Cannot find a counter anywhere. Maybe someone else knows if there is one.

Can find all other stats, i.e registered users, orphaned pages etc but no counter.

edit:
weren't it you or Shatar who said that I was too harsh for mysel
Believe it was both of us, and I'm glad to see you are less harsh on yourself nowadays.
By the way, the zero stuff is really just my sense of humour (I think). :wink:

The special pages etc still do not give a real indicator of visitors, as most of the stats will be coming from all of us editing. Maybe there is a unique counter somewhere or someone knows how to add one.
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by Garnet
Posted: 26.01.2011 02:18
Big huge for Multiuploader :D

I try something like infobox, but I'm not satisfied:
http://nehrim.wikia.com/wiki/Goddawn_Claymore

And the Wiki Infobox is... :roll:
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheGunnerBoat
Posted: 26.01.2011 06:48
I want that someone who keeps deleting my Skeleton Boss Istanur from the bosses list, to please stop doing it, it's my work, my time, my blood, my flesh and my son!!! (and a whole load of black magic to do it)
:wink:
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 26.01.2011 09:19
Don't worry Gunnar, noobody is deleting anything, maybe Wiki is again at fault. I see the Skeleton in bosses list, so I guess it's fine. And just to let you know, it's not that easy to delete a page. First of all , you need to be an admin, secondly, deleted pages can be undeleted:P Haven't used this option yet, but admins appear to have access to deleted pages and then they can undelete them.


And Toxic wrote me that she is willing to help if it will be necessary to access CSS. However, she had to become inactive for some time as she got a web job, building a page for someone.

I saw someone else trying to help out with wiki CSS yesterday, but he failed agin, hhaha
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by Shatar
Posted: 26.01.2011 11:13
Hey everyone,

Got 3 exams left: One for Friday, one Monday and the last one Wednesday next week. After that, I might consider playing Nehrim and contributing on the Wiki again as I have a lot of spare time then. :)

@Garnet: If you want, you may replace the Image of the Goddawn swords to one of your own. I took that picture a while ago, but it would be better if there were separate pictures of both swords. Just to avoid any confusion ;).
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 26.01.2011 15:56
Good luck with your exams Shatar :) Hope you manage ot find some time to help a bit ;)

Uh, I spoke to a friend who knows quite alot about coding, I know how to access CSS (and you were right Garnet, this Source mode is CSS but there we can't change anything, entering Global Css is necessary and he does not know how to do it). First of all, he mentioned that our default Wikia preference which is Wikia New Look sucks, because they put a lot of adverts there and navigaion is poor. He recommended chaging in My Preferences into MonoBook and , wow, look guys, everything is at hand (on the left) : http://nehrim.wikia.com/index.php?title ... n=monobook Multiple Upload etc. Also, the Edits are easier- at the top you can see what options you have - Delete, Move, Protect etc. It means less clicking thank in this Wikia New Look. But the problem is that I tried to save changes for MonoBook for me and it doesn't work.... still have the old look. How about you? Can you change the Look of wikia in My Preferences page? It is becoming really annoying as my friend mentions that everything works fine for him and that our Wikia must be broken :P


Edit: Found this, may b einteresting :
http://nehrim.wikia.com/index.php?title ... ction=main
http://nehrim.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Version
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by Garnet
Posted: 26.01.2011 18:34
My MonoBook don't work too.
I check the links you have posted, but there is a lot of information and needs time to study them.

Can you check the new classifications in Armour/weapon, I hope haven't miss anything. i put the old classifications on bottom
page under notes, it can be delete after checking links. For other types of Armour/weapon is needed another type of table, and I don't know how formatting your tables with big border.
For weapons maybe we need something new like:
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/File:2_ ... eapons.jpg
:roll: Is not new, but can be made in Nehrim style, or a screenshot with Poseweapon mod.
@Shatar good Luck!
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by kassandra
Posted: 26.01.2011 19:52
Ok Garnet, will take a look at items page at the weekend and check eberything and edit the table with borders:]

Btw..got an answer fro SUpport... don't understand a world of it.... they started to speak to me in CSS and I mentioned I am not familiar with CSS;p Sent it forward to Victoria/Toxic, hope she will find some time to help out.

Wait...I just entered Wiki and I see EDITbutton :O Maybe they did fix something...
Re: Nehrim Wiki project- join us please! - by TheHawk
Posted: 26.01.2011 20:13
Hi.
edit:edit:edit ignore below suggestion, only works on home page. Then reverts back. Apparently monopage caused a bit of a stir in wiki community. People a bit annoyed that they cannot use it or allow visitors to use it. Some even posting and suggesting vandalising there own sites and making them look ugly, in the hope wiki big boys would take notice.

@kassandra
My Preferences into MonoBook
If you want to keep mono book settings -
1) preferences - monobook - preview
2) close original window
3) Save changes at bottom of page
4) Create new bookmark and delete old
5)logout - try new bookmark

hope it works for you :D
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