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ok thanks, ill try that and let you know if that works

I have deleted the ini files for both skyrim and MO although that does not seem to be working here is my log

when I start the game through the launcher the main menu does not appear and is just a blue screen. the normal options are still there like new game, credits, etc but when I click new game it crashes with the message that "Skyrim has crashed because an object reference with form ID: 0x125531, base ...